On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:57, Luca Anca <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello devs, > > > > as suggested before, I would like to make the main page of the wiki a > > full dashboard, namely to relocate the welcome message in a gadget so > > that the type of page of the main page is more clear. See this two > > screenshots about how it could look (one is with default style, other is > > with panels style). > > > > > > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Design/GadgetIntegration/WikiDashboard.png > > > > > > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Design/GadgetIntegration/WikiDashboardPanels.png > > > > (also > > > > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Design/GadgetIntegration/MainDashboard.xar) > if you want to import it in your own wiki and play with it. > > > > I want to discuss the following points now: > > 1/ is the title "Wiki Dashboard" ok for the main page of the wiki? > > > > IMO I don't like at all the panels style > (WikiDashboardPanels.png< > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Design/GadgetIntegration/WikiDashboardPanels.png > >). > It adds too much weight on the visual aspect and does not bring any value. > IMO the dashboard should be something invisible, like magic somehow for the > editor, not for the viewer. The editor should benefit from all the > advantages a dashboard system offers: easily add new modules, configure or > manage existing ones, without writing too much code. > I don't understand why if we have a new feature ("dashboard") we should > emphase it like this: changing the look of the homepage, changing the > title. > I don't want my homepage to look like JIRA. My wiki should be based and > focused on the content, not on the back techniques I use. > I totally agree with this > With the panels style I'm more focused that I use 4 types of gadgets, than > to actually see what is the content of those gadgets. > > So what if the user will not know that we have now dashboards? They will > see > that if they go to edit mode. This feature will help them achieve things > faster, but is not necessary to change the way they were doing things until > now. > > As a conclusion, IMO the main page should be "Welcome ...", or "Home"; > "Wiki > Dashboard" doesn't sound like a starting page for me (unless maybe if I am > a > technical user, but also not in this case). And the naming is very > important > because it will prefix all the breadcrumbs. > "Home" or "Home page" is for me much better than "Welcome to your wiki" since it actually describe what the home page is. Jerome > > > > > > 2/ Is the welcome message visible enough, is it accessible to users and > > explanatory about what the page is about and what they could do next? > > > > Regarding this and also http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/b3xyxpg5f5wla4h7I > think we should change something. > I work for 2 years at XWiki and tested every day snapshots and this is the > first time I read that message and didn't provide me anything of help. > We could do a help gadget or an introduction gadget (that can be easily > removed using the dashboard system) to help new users out. > > Thanks, > Caty > > > > 3/ what would be the relation now with the old Main.Dashboard page, > > which, as you can see in the quick links panel, is a "Wiki Dashboard" > > itself? Should it be the same page? if so, is it ok that the welcome > > message appears on the wiki dashboard? if they're not the same page then > > it's a bit strange that they're called the same but 2 different pages... > > Should we rename one? > > > > Technically the welcome message is written in a new page, Main.Welcome, > > and then included in a gadget in the dashboard. This page can be > > translated for getting the message in different languages. > > > > WDYT? > > > > Thanks, > > Anca > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
