Hi, On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Guillaume, > > I have started a new discussion [1] on the topic of the new location of the > Add menu in Flamingo which is, IMO, the real problem here. > I'll answer on this thread. However, I stand by my point that creating a wiki or a space are different actions compared from adding a new page and as thus should be treated differently. Regarding your actual proposal, I`d be inclined to -1 it, as IMO it makes > basic CRUD operations on the wiki model harder to perform (i.e. harder to > find), and what we`d like to do is help people create content and > structure, not the other way around. > I agree with the logic but I'm not sure I'm 100% in line with the conclusion. As you said, the goal is to help users create and structure their content. Right now, when looking at existing installs, I often see cases where users created several spaces with similar names (which doesn't really help structure information). This is mainly because they didn't know that a space with a similar name already existed. Similarly, you wouldn't want someone to create a "Communication" wiki if the "MarketingCommunication" wiki already exists. This is why I'm proposing to place "Create" buttons in context. I see at least 3 places where this could be useful: - "Create wiki" button on http://<server>/xwiki/bin/view/WikiManager/ - "Create space" button on hypothetical http://<server>/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SpacesIndex (similar to what we already have on the Dashboard) - "Create user" button on http://<server> /xwiki/bin/view/Main/UserDirectory So from my point of view, by putting those buttons on those pages they would actually be easier to find and understand for end-users. Thanks, Guillaume Thanks, > Eduard > > ---------- > [1] http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/jqbcj4p4ryc56sms > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > We improved the things a bit by implementing > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10928 > > Now users can more rapidly create pages by using the implicit value of > > 'Add'. > > > > Having all the option (Create Wiki, Create Space, Create Page) in the > menu > > is important IMO since you can create spaces (and wikis) from anywhere in > > the wiki. You don't need to be in a certain location to do this action. > > > > I agree about having a Space Index of some sort and have a consistent way > > of localizing/navigating Wikis/Spaces/Pages. Something similar to this > idea > > was the Explorer proposal > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ExplorerApp > > > > Another related issue to this subject is > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-9440, but again I think XWIKI-10928 > > <http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10928> improved the problem. > > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <[email protected] > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Devs, > > > > > > I'm currently testing XE 6.2, it's a great release, I love the new > look a > > > lot - well done guys! > > > > > > I have a quick remark that is related to the new location of the > "Create" > > > button. I think we should move the "create wiki" and "create space" > > options > > > from where they are located now. > > > > > > The "Create wiki" button could be moved under the list of wikis on this > > > page: http://<server>/xwiki/bin/view/WikiManager/ > > > > > > We would probably need a similar "space index" page with the "Create > > space" > > > button there, a bit like what we have on the dashboard now: http:// > > > <server>/xwiki/bin/view/Dashboard/ > > > > > > The objective being that when doing those create actions, they would be > > > done with the context of the wikis / spaces that already exist. > > > > > > What is also a bit confusing for users is that since creating a new > wiki > > is > > > much much bigger and less frequent than creating a new page, the action > > > should not be available from every single page. > > > > > > This issue has become much more salient than before to me because of > the > > > new location of the "Create" button. What's your opinion about this? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Guillaume > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
