Hi, On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Marius, > > > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Guillaume Lerouge < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > Hi again, > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi Eddy, > > > >> > > > >> 2014-09-25 11:59 GMT+02:00 Eduard Moraru <[email protected]>: > > > >> > > > >> > Hi devs, > > > >> > > > > >> > I`m not sure if we already have a discussion started on this > topic, > > > but > > > >> in > > > >> > my opinion, it's long overdue. I see people start being confused > and > > > >> > questions like this [1] start to be asked. > > > >> > > > > >> > The new location of the Add menu in Flamingo is problematic IMO > for > > a > > > >> > various number of reasons: > > > >> > - It falsely gives the impression that it adds page-related > entries > > > (i.e. > > > >> > related to the current page), due to its current location (i.e. in > > the > > > >> page > > > >> > content) > > > >> > - It conflicts with AWM`s "Add new Entry" button > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > More generally speaking, this is true for a lot of livetables. We > would > > > > need a generic "Create" button to be available when we instantiate a > > > > livetable. This could be useful for the wiki index page, for the user > > > > directory, for all the AWM homepages... > > > > > > I guess you like the files live table from the File Manager then :) > > > > > > > > > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/File+Manager+Application#HFileLiveTable > > > . Would be interesting to have such a toolbar (with support for custom > > > buttons) before the live table don't you think? > > > > > > > > IMO the toolbar's functionality is already covered by the 'Actions' column > in the livetable. The only thing missing is the 'Create' > I'm not sure this is the same use case. I can see at least 3 reasons why: 1/ The "create" button would generate a new entry, whereas the "actions" column is for actions that are related to individual entries that already exist 2/ The "actions" column can be removed by the livetable creator 3/ The toolbar would also be useful to handle bulk actions on pages such as "delete selected entries" (as in the file manager) Best, Guillaume Thanks, > Caty > > > > > Yes and yes :-) > > > > Guillaume > > > > > > > > Basically the button would let the user create a new item of the same > > > type > > > > than the items displayed in the livetable. Right now we do this in an > > > > ad-hoc fashion, so it would be great to have a generic solution. It's > > > also > > > > related to the automatic page name generation module (that we don't > > have > > > in > > > > the core yet, though there's an extensions doing it > > > > < > > > > > > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Unique+Identification+Number+Module > > > > > > > > ). > > > > > > > > Guillaume > > > > > > > > > > > >> > - from my POV, looking at the page from a far, the new location > > looks > > > >> > completely randomly selected: > > > >> > -- It's not on the left/top (as left-to-right language specific > > brains > > > >> are > > > >> > trained to follow) > > > >> > -- it's not exactly at the top either > > > >> > -- it's not at the right > > > >> > -- it's not next to the type of elements it creates (i.e. next to > > > >> > WIKI/SPACE/PAGE) > > > >> > -- it basically is almost in the middle of the screen > > > >> > - etc. (i.e. others that don`t come right now to my mind) > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> Personally, I like the fact that it is located near the Edit button, > > > even > > > >> if it does not concern the current page. Because it groups the most > > > basic > > > >> and useful actions that you need when you want to contribute: EDIT, > > ADD. > > > >> > > > >> To me, it makes sense. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > I`d like to open a discussion on this, since it's quite an > important > > > >> aspect > > > >> > of the UI and, due to it's shiny green color (which I like :)), > it`s > > > hard > > > >> > to miss. > > > >> > > > > >> > Is it just me who's resistant to change, or do others see a > problem > > > here > > > >> > with this as well? > > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks, > > > >> > Eduard > > > >> > > > > >> > ---------- > > > >> > [1] http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/rqcxryksa2ckjhpm > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > devs mailing list > > > >> > [email protected] > > > >> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) > > > >> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > > > >> Committer on the XWiki.org project > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> devs mailing list > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > devs mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Guillaume Lerouge guillaumelerouge.com <http://www.guillaumelerouge.com/> 06 10 79 76 70 _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
