Ok I’ve had a discussion with Caty and the outcome: - keep 2 buttons - Name them “Hosted XWiki” and “Download XWiki” - Some minor tweaks to the “Hosted XWiki” page
Actions: - Caty will update the proposal soon. - We’ll try to upgrade xwiki.org to XWiki 7.4.2 tomorrow. With Nested Spaces we don’t know how long it’ll take. Hopefully one day should more than enough for an acceptable upgrade (with more work to be done on an ongoing basis to move stuff around) - Caty will then implement the proposal on the new xwiki.org during the rest of this week Please let us know quickly if you don’t agree with something. Thanks -Vincent On 7 Mar 2016 at 17:06:12, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) ([email protected]) wrote: On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:48 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Caty, > > > On 4 Mar 2016 at 21:25:43, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) ([email protected] > (mailto:[email protected])) wrote: > > > This proposal follows the [VOTE] New governance rule for xwiki.org: > hosted > > XWiki options > > http://markmail.org/thread/ktf5dvlmsnwc7lho > > > > The proposal is here: > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiOrgTry > > > > Changes: > > - Change the current position for the 'Download' button and place it in > the > > header, for more easy access > > - Besides the 'Download XWiki' button add a new 'Try XWiki' button > > - Create a 'Try' page that shows how XWiki can be used in the Cloud or > as a > > hosted solution > > - List professional Cloud offers along with playground.xwiki.org and > > myxwiki.xwiki.org > > > > Let me know what you think. > > Thanks for the proposal! > > Some comments: > > * Nice overall! :) > > * I don’t like too much having 2 buttons: Try + Download. I would prefer > having a single one that would lead to a page offering 2 options: Using > XWiki Hosted or Downloading and install XWiki. What would be the label for this button (that would summarize well both cases and that uses a well-known verb)? > 2 reasons for this: > ** it’s completely not obvious which one to use without explanations. If I > want to try xwiki by downloading it locally, which button do I click? > ** we currently link to the download page in lots of places. This means > that everywhere we’ll need to have 2 buttons. That’s a pain > Currently the download is part of the Panels.Download panel. We could extend it and list the 2 buttons, but this is not what the proposal suggests. In the proposal the buttons are part of the global.vm, so they are applied to the custom skin we have on xwiki.org. So this means we would change only the skin and not have to modify multiple places. > * I don’t like the word “Try” used with the 2 buttons because it implies > it’s a test. Some users may want to test xwiki but they can do so by > downloading the standalone packaging for example. However if I don’t want > to try XWiki but use it (using a hosted solution), which button do I use? > 'Try' is verb commonly used across Web. Maybe you can suggest an alternative. Alternatives might be: Evaluate, Play, Demo, Test, other? > > ==> I’d prefer having a single button. Now the complexity would be in > choosing the name for that button. I have proposed “Use XWiki” in the past, > which then would offer the 2 options: Have an XWiki hosted for you to use, > Download and install XWiki to use. Even though I don’t like “Try XWiki” too > much, at least having a single button is more correct since you’d be > presented with the various options to “try" XWiki. > Ok, so your proposal is to have 'Use'. I don't quite like it and I prefer Try (but maybe it's not as complete as you want). For me 'use' means maybe a link to the documentation about User guide or something. > > * XWiki SAS is offering several options: cloud with XCS but also hosted. > What does this mean? Do we need to add more text in order to describe this? > > * I’d put the number of active committers next to each company name, as we > do on the download feedback page. > I though about that, but I could find the relevance (except if you know that the number is used in order to achieve the sorting). IMO the committers count should be listed when we present the motivation to list companies. But in the Try page, for an end user doesn't have any sense to know that info, since it's not related about trying XWiki. > > * Small detail: the term XWiki shouldn’t be used by other companies as is > since it conflicts with the XWiki distribution but I guess you put that > just as an example. However other companies may not have a product. They > could simply be offering hosted services for XWiki. We’ll see when the time > comes. > I don't know what to put there. It would be nice if the committers representing those companies would give their input if they want to list somewhere there. Thanks, Caty > > * For myxwiki.org, we probably need to mention that it’s a real life test > instance for the xwiki devs and comes with no warranty of uptime and no > support. > > WDYT? > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > Thanks, > > Caty > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
