Hi, Iterations 2: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/XWikiOrgTry/hostedContent2.png
Let me know what you think. Thanks, Caty On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 7:17 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok I’ve had a discussion with Caty and the outcome: > - keep 2 buttons > - Name them “Hosted XWiki” and “Download XWiki” > - Some minor tweaks to the “Hosted XWiki” page > > Actions: > - Caty will update the proposal soon. > - We’ll try to upgrade xwiki.org to XWiki 7.4.2 tomorrow. With Nested > Spaces we don’t know how long it’ll take. Hopefully one day should more > than enough for an acceptable upgrade (with more work to be done on an > ongoing basis to move stuff around) > - Caty will then implement the proposal on the new xwiki.org during the > rest of this week > > Please let us know quickly if you don’t agree with something. > > Thanks > -Vincent > > On 7 Mar 2016 at 17:06:12, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) ([email protected]) > wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:48 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Caty, > > > > > > On 4 Mar 2016 at 21:25:43, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) ([email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected])) wrote: > > > > > This proposal follows the [VOTE] New governance rule for xwiki.org: > > hosted > > > XWiki options > > > http://markmail.org/thread/ktf5dvlmsnwc7lho > > > > > > The proposal is here: > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiOrgTry > > > > > > Changes: > > > - Change the current position for the 'Download' button and place it in > > the > > > header, for more easy access > > > - Besides the 'Download XWiki' button add a new 'Try XWiki' button > > > - Create a 'Try' page that shows how XWiki can be used in the Cloud or > > as a > > > hosted solution > > > - List professional Cloud offers along with playground.xwiki.org and > > > myxwiki.xwiki.org > > > > > > Let me know what you think. > > > > Thanks for the proposal! > > > > Some comments: > > > > * Nice overall! :) > > > > * I don’t like too much having 2 buttons: Try + Download. I would prefer > > having a single one that would lead to a page offering 2 options: Using > > XWiki Hosted or Downloading and install XWiki. > > > What would be the label for this button (that would summarize well both > cases and that uses a well-known verb)? > > > > 2 reasons for this: > > ** it’s completely not obvious which one to use without explanations. If > I > > want to try xwiki by downloading it locally, which button do I click? > > ** we currently link to the download page in lots of places. This means > > that everywhere we’ll need to have 2 buttons. That’s a pain > > > > Currently the download is part of the Panels.Download panel. We could > extend it and list the 2 buttons, but this is not what the proposal > suggests. In the proposal the buttons are part of the global.vm, so they > are applied to the custom skin we have on xwiki.org. So this means we > would > change only the skin and not have to modify multiple places. > > > > * I don’t like the word “Try” used with the 2 buttons because it implies > > it’s a test. Some users may want to test xwiki but they can do so by > > downloading the standalone packaging for example. However if I don’t want > > to try XWiki but use it (using a hosted solution), which button do I use? > > > > 'Try' is verb commonly used across Web. Maybe you can suggest an > alternative. Alternatives might be: Evaluate, Play, Demo, Test, other? > > > > > > > ==> I’d prefer having a single button. Now the complexity would be in > > choosing the name for that button. I have proposed “Use XWiki” in the > past, > > which then would offer the 2 options: Have an XWiki hosted for you to > use, > > Download and install XWiki to use. Even though I don’t like “Try XWiki” > too > > much, at least having a single button is more correct since you’d be > > presented with the various options to “try" XWiki. > > > > Ok, so your proposal is to have 'Use'. I don't quite like it and I prefer > Try (but maybe it's not as complete as you want). For me 'use' means maybe > a link to the documentation about User guide or something. > > > > > > * XWiki SAS is offering several options: cloud with XCS but also hosted. > > > > What does this mean? Do we need to add more text in order to describe this? > > > > > > * I’d put the number of active committers next to each company name, as > we > > do on the download feedback page. > > > > I though about that, but I could find the relevance (except if you know > that the number is used in order to achieve the sorting). IMO the > committers count should be listed when we present the motivation to list > companies. But in the Try page, for an end user doesn't have any sense to > know that info, since it's not related about trying XWiki. > > > > > > * Small detail: the term XWiki shouldn’t be used by other companies as is > > since it conflicts with the XWiki distribution but I guess you put that > > just as an example. However other companies may not have a product. They > > could simply be offering hosted services for XWiki. We’ll see when the > time > > comes. > > > > I don't know what to put there. It would be nice if the committers > representing those companies would give their input if they want to list > somewhere there. > > Thanks, > Caty > > > > > > * For myxwiki.org, we probably need to mention that it’s a real life > test > > instance for the xwiki devs and comes with no warranty of uptime and no > > support. > > > > WDYT? > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > > > Thanks, > > > Caty > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
