Please add some comments about issues you will find during this upgrade, in this document (draft): http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Migration+Guide+To+Nested+Pages
Thanks, 2016-03-07 21:35 GMT+01:00 [email protected] <[email protected]>: > > > > On 7 Mar 2016 at 21:03:07, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) ([email protected]) > wrote: > > Hi, > > Iterations 2: > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/XWikiOrgTry/hostedContent2.png > > Let me know what you think. > > > I like it! :) > > Only comment is that the cloud products from companies are quite small and > it’s not obvious from the colors that they can be clicked. > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > PS: You’ve been able to include the committers count in the end ;) > > > Thanks, > Caty > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 7:17 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Ok I’ve had a discussion with Caty and the outcome: > > - keep 2 buttons > > - Name them “Hosted XWiki” and “Download XWiki” > > - Some minor tweaks to the “Hosted XWiki” page > > > > Actions: > > - Caty will update the proposal soon. > > - We’ll try to upgrade xwiki.org to XWiki 7.4.2 tomorrow. With Nested > > Spaces we don’t know how long it’ll take. Hopefully one day should more > > than enough for an acceptable upgrade (with more work to be done on an > > ongoing basis to move stuff around) > > - Caty will then implement the proposal on the new xwiki.org during the > > rest of this week > > > > Please let us know quickly if you don’t agree with something. > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > > On 7 Mar 2016 at 17:06:12, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) ([email protected]) > > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:48 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Caty, > > > > > > > > > On 4 Mar 2016 at 21:25:43, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) ( > [email protected] > > > (mailto:[email protected])) wrote: > > > > > > > This proposal follows the [VOTE] New governance rule for xwiki.org: > > > hosted > > > > XWiki options > > > > http://markmail.org/thread/ktf5dvlmsnwc7lho > > > > > > > > The proposal is here: > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiOrgTry > > > > > > > > Changes: > > > > - Change the current position for the 'Download' button and place it > in > > > the > > > > header, for more easy access > > > > - Besides the 'Download XWiki' button add a new 'Try XWiki' button > > > > - Create a 'Try' page that shows how XWiki can be used in the Cloud > or > > > as a > > > > hosted solution > > > > - List professional Cloud offers along with playground.xwiki.org and > > > > myxwiki.xwiki.org > > > > > > > > Let me know what you think. > > > > > > Thanks for the proposal! > > > > > > Some comments: > > > > > > * Nice overall! :) > > > > > > * I don’t like too much having 2 buttons: Try + Download. I would > prefer > > > having a single one that would lead to a page offering 2 options: Using > > > XWiki Hosted or Downloading and install XWiki. > > > > > > What would be the label for this button (that would summarize well both > > cases and that uses a well-known verb)? > > > > > > > 2 reasons for this: > > > ** it’s completely not obvious which one to use without explanations. > If > > I > > > want to try xwiki by downloading it locally, which button do I click? > > > ** we currently link to the download page in lots of places. This means > > > that everywhere we’ll need to have 2 buttons. That’s a pain > > > > > > > Currently the download is part of the Panels.Download panel. We could > > extend it and list the 2 buttons, but this is not what the proposal > > suggests. In the proposal the buttons are part of the global.vm, so they > > are applied to the custom skin we have on xwiki.org. So this means we > > would > > change only the skin and not have to modify multiple places. > > > > > > > * I don’t like the word “Try” used with the 2 buttons because it > implies > > > it’s a test. Some users may want to test xwiki but they can do so by > > > downloading the standalone packaging for example. However if I don’t > want > > > to try XWiki but use it (using a hosted solution), which button do I > use? > > > > > > > 'Try' is verb commonly used across Web. Maybe you can suggest an > > alternative. Alternatives might be: Evaluate, Play, Demo, Test, other? > > > > > > > > > > > > ==> I’d prefer having a single button. Now the complexity would be in > > > choosing the name for that button. I have proposed “Use XWiki” in the > > past, > > > which then would offer the 2 options: Have an XWiki hosted for you to > > use, > > > Download and install XWiki to use. Even though I don’t like “Try XWiki” > > too > > > much, at least having a single button is more correct since you’d be > > > presented with the various options to “try" XWiki. > > > > > > > Ok, so your proposal is to have 'Use'. I don't quite like it and I prefer > > Try (but maybe it's not as complete as you want). For me 'use' means > maybe > > a link to the documentation about User guide or something. > > > > > > > > > > * XWiki SAS is offering several options: cloud with XCS but also > hosted. > > > > > > > What does this mean? Do we need to add more text in order to describe > this? > > > > > > > > > > * I’d put the number of active committers next to each company name, as > > we > > > do on the download feedback page. > > > > > > > I though about that, but I could find the relevance (except if you know > > that the number is used in order to achieve the sorting). IMO the > > committers count should be listed when we present the motivation to list > > companies. But in the Try page, for an end user doesn't have any sense to > > know that info, since it's not related about trying XWiki. > > > > > > > > > > * Small detail: the term XWiki shouldn’t be used by other companies as > is > > > since it conflicts with the XWiki distribution but I guess you put that > > > just as an example. However other companies may not have a product. > They > > > could simply be offering hosted services for XWiki. We’ll see when the > > time > > > comes. > > > > > > > I don't know what to put there. It would be nice if the committers > > representing those companies would give their input if they want to list > > somewhere there. > > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > > > > > > > * For myxwiki.org, we probably need to mention that it’s a real life > > test > > > instance for the xwiki devs and comes with no warranty of uptime and no > > > support. > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > Thanks > > > -Vincent > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Caty > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
