Hi, So +1 in general.
I have no problem with A), G), H), I), J). Still I think we need iterations for B), C), F) since they are affecting the product and we need to be careful to not interact with the usability / functionality of the areas we are affecting. D), E) depends on the quality and content of those posts / content. Again I think it's ok in general, but I can imagine some problematic scenarios. Thanks, Caty On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau < [email protected]> wrote: > +1 > > 2016-04-30 21:42 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]>: > > > +1 > > > > On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > Dear XWiki Developers, > > > > > > In order to better ensure the long term success of the xwiki open > source > > project, we need to work on making xwiki.org a place where sponsoring > > companies (the main one being XWiki SAS) can thrive and get some revenues > > from their contributions to the project (thus allowing them to invest and > > even increase their investment in open source). > > > > > > Actually we've already started this a while ago by defining our > > governance process at > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Governance. > > > > > > This mail is about going further in this direction and providing more > > leverage for sponsoring companies. > > > > > > Without further ado, here's a list of actions I'm proposing: > > > > > > A) On the download page, introduce a form (that can be skipped) to let > > user enter their details (name, email) to accept to receive offers, > discuss > > business projects, and provide onboarding help/tips from companies > creating > > XWiki. Since XWiki SAS is currently hosting and maintaining xwiki.org, > > I'm proposing that the user details will be sent by mail to some XWiki > SAS > > email address (i.e. XWiki SAS will be operating user data gathering on > > behalf of xwiki.org, which has no legal entity). On the other side, > XWiki > > SAS will provide those information to other companies offering a good > level > > of code contribution to the development of XWiki: I'm proposing the > > threshold of 3 active committers to be able to receive those contact > > details. > > > > > > B) Similarly, inside the XWiki product, on the Admin user creation > > screen in the Distribution Wizard or elsewhere (place to be defined), > have > > some checkbox to accept to receive news/onboarding tips/offers from > > companies creating XWiki. It'll work the same and send an email to some > > XWiki SAS-operated email address. And again XWiki SAS will redistribute > the > > information to companies having more than 3 active committers on the > > project. > > > > > > C) Add a Support/Offer Panel inside the default XWiki flavor where > > companies creating XWiki can advertising their services/offers. In > > addition, find a place, maybe in some Admin UI menu for providing the > same > > information + a configuration option to remove this panel from the UI. > > > > > > D) Allow companies creating XWiki to publish blog entries to present > new > > offers/services/extensions. We don't want this to turn into spam so the > > rule could be no more than 1 such blog entry/mail per month to start with > > and those entries need to be presented in a nice community-oriented way. > > > > > > E) Similarly, allow top sponsoring companies (XWiki SAS at the moment) > > to create a monthly newsletter sent to the users list, gathering news > about > > the xwiki ecosystem in general (product news, events, new > > offers/services/paying extensions, tips, etc). There could also be > surveys. > > XWiki SAS is happy to start this effort and to gather such news from > other > > sponsoring companies to include them in the newsletter. The idea is to > let > > the community be more aware of all news that exists be them free or for > > pay, and in addition also advertise conferences at which xwiki is > > represented, etc. > > > > > > F) Find a good place in the XWiki runtime (maybe rework the Admin UI > > home page to remove the current icons which don't bring any useful > > information) to display the xwiki.org blog. The idea is to provide news > > from inside XWiki but not make it intrusive to users (hence the idea of > > locating it somewhere in the Admin UI). Of course we need handle the > > fallback when the instance is not connected to the internet or behind a > > proxy. > > > > > > G) Since XWiki SAS is paying for hosting and maintaining xwiki.org, > the > > idea is to mention this on xwiki.org, possibly in a panel or in the > > footer (as we do our other sponsors) > > > > > > H) Put some company logos of companies using xwiki on the home page or > > somewhere visible to advertise more the xwiki software: "hey, look, those > > companies are using XWiki”. > > > > > > I) Increase the visibility for the top sponsoring company. Today we > have > > an issue is that the company that sponsors the big majority of the source > > code is not much more visible than companies which sponsor less than 1% > of > > the code. Right now we're saying on [[ > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Governance]]: "The > > commercial offerings are listed in the order of their contribution > levels, > > the biggest contributor getting the top spot. In order to keep it simple > > the contribution level corresponds to the number of active Committers.". > > I'd like to keep the spirit but I believe we need to change the > > implementation. Right now all companies are put one under another. This > has > > the effect of making it more confusing for users to choose and doesn't > > reflect the level of contributions of companies. So the new rule I'd like > > to have is that on all pages where we list companies, we make the top > > contributing company displayed very visibly and have a link for other > > companies, leading to another page where they advertise for their > services > > and offers. > > > > > > J) Allow sponsoring companies to have paying extensions on > > extensions.xwiki.org, under any license (open source or not). > > > > > > Here’s my +1 > > > > > > Thanks > > > -Vincent Massol > > > Hat 1: CTO XWiki SAS > > > Hat 2: XWiki Core Committer > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > -- > > Thomas Mortagne > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > -- > Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > Committer on the XWiki.org project > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

