Hi,

So +1 in general.

I have no problem with A), G), H), I), J).

Still I think we need iterations for B), C), F) since they are affecting
the product and we need to be careful to not interact with the usability /
functionality of the areas we are affecting.

D), E) depends on the quality and content of those posts / content. Again I
think it's ok in general, but I can imagine some problematic scenarios.

Thanks,
Caty


On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau <
[email protected]> wrote:

> +1
>
> 2016-04-30 21:42 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]>:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > Dear XWiki Developers,
> > >
> > > In order to better ensure the long term success of the xwiki open
> source
> > project, we need to work on making xwiki.org a place where sponsoring
> > companies (the main one being XWiki SAS) can thrive and get some revenues
> > from their contributions to the project (thus allowing them to invest and
> > even increase their investment in open source).
> > >
> > > Actually we've already started this a while ago by defining our
> > governance process at
> > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Governance.
> > >
> > > This mail is about going further in this direction and providing more
> > leverage for sponsoring companies.
> > >
> > > Without further ado, here's a list of actions I'm proposing:
> > >
> > > A) On the download page, introduce a form (that can be skipped) to let
> > user enter their details (name, email) to accept to receive offers,
> discuss
> > business projects, and provide onboarding help/tips from companies
> creating
> > XWiki. Since XWiki SAS is currently hosting and maintaining xwiki.org,
> > I'm proposing that the user details will be sent by mail to some XWiki
> SAS
> > email address (i.e. XWiki SAS will be operating user data gathering on
> > behalf of xwiki.org, which has no legal entity). On the other side,
> XWiki
> > SAS will provide those information to other companies offering a good
> level
> > of code contribution to the development of XWiki: I'm proposing the
> > threshold of 3 active committers to be able to receive those contact
> > details.
> > >
> > > B) Similarly, inside the XWiki product, on the Admin user creation
> > screen in the Distribution Wizard or elsewhere (place to be defined),
> have
> > some checkbox to accept to receive news/onboarding tips/offers from
> > companies creating XWiki. It'll work the same and send an email to some
> > XWiki SAS-operated email address. And again XWiki SAS will redistribute
> the
> > information to companies having more than 3 active committers on the
> > project.
> > >
> > > C) Add a Support/Offer Panel inside the default XWiki flavor where
> > companies creating XWiki can advertising their services/offers. In
> > addition, find a place, maybe in some Admin UI menu for providing the
> same
> > information + a configuration option to remove this panel from the UI.
> > >
> > > D) Allow companies creating XWiki to publish blog entries to present
> new
> > offers/services/extensions. We don't want this to turn into spam so the
> > rule could be no more than 1 such blog entry/mail per month to start with
> > and those entries need to be presented in a nice community-oriented way.
> > >
> > > E) Similarly, allow top sponsoring companies (XWiki SAS at the moment)
> > to create a monthly newsletter sent to the users list, gathering news
> about
> > the xwiki ecosystem in general (product news, events, new
> > offers/services/paying extensions, tips, etc). There could also be
> surveys.
> > XWiki SAS is happy to start this effort and to gather such news from
> other
> > sponsoring companies to include them in the newsletter. The idea is to
> let
> > the community be more aware of all news that exists be them free or for
> > pay, and in addition also advertise conferences at which xwiki is
> > represented, etc.
> > >
> > > F) Find a good place in the XWiki runtime (maybe rework the Admin UI
> > home page to remove the current icons which don't bring any useful
> > information) to display the xwiki.org blog. The idea is to provide news
> > from inside XWiki but not make it intrusive to users (hence the idea of
> > locating it somewhere in the Admin UI). Of course we need handle the
> > fallback when the instance is not connected to the internet or behind a
> > proxy.
> > >
> > > G) Since XWiki SAS is paying for hosting and maintaining xwiki.org,
> the
> > idea is to mention this on xwiki.org, possibly in a panel or in the
> > footer (as we do our other sponsors)
> > >
> > > H) Put some company logos of companies using xwiki on the home page or
> > somewhere visible to advertise more the xwiki software: "hey, look, those
> > companies are using XWiki”.
> > >
> > > I) Increase the visibility for the top sponsoring company. Today we
> have
> > an issue is that the company that sponsors the big majority of the source
> > code is not much more visible than companies which sponsor less than 1%
> of
> > the code. Right now we're saying on  [[
> > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Governance]]: "The
> > commercial offerings are listed in the order of their contribution
> levels,
> > the biggest contributor getting the top spot. In order to keep it simple
> > the contribution level corresponds to the number of active Committers.".
> > I'd like to keep the spirit but I believe we need to change the
> > implementation. Right now all companies are put one under another. This
> has
> > the effect of making it more confusing for users to choose and doesn't
> > reflect the level of contributions of companies. So the new rule I'd like
> > to have is that on all pages where we list companies, we make the top
> > contributing company displayed very visibly and have a link for other
> > companies, leading to another page where they advertise for their
> services
> > and offers.
> > >
> > > J) Allow sponsoring companies to have paying extensions on
> > extensions.xwiki.org, under any license (open source or not).
> > >
> > > Here’s my +1
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > -Vincent Massol
> > > Hat 1: CTO XWiki SAS
> > > Hat 2: XWiki Core Committer
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> >
> >
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>
>
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> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> Committer on the XWiki.org project
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