-0 (leaning more towards -1) since the focus should be on the extension and not on the fact that it`s a contrib project. I really see no constructive point generally in following "contrib-only" discussions and it`s something that I`d personally prefer not to encourage. If you are interested in a particular extension or a particular list of extensions, then it should be easy to make a filter only for those keywords.
I do not support creating a community-wise segregation in any way between the development of the XWiki core and its extensions, either explicit (through a separate discussion list) or implicit (by differentiating core discussions from extensions or the other way around). I find it already hard enough to build a community, as it is. Thanks, Eduard On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote: > > > +1 for [Contrib][<Project>] > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Thomas Mortagne < > > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Then [Contrib][<Project>] I guess. > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Actually I don't like the idea of having the name of the application > > > itself > > > > and not a unique keyword because it's not easy to have filters in the > > > mail > > > > client for all the names of the applications on contrib (I cannot > > imagine > > > > how I would create these filters). With a single keyword filters are > > > easier > > > > to do. > > > > > > > > Let's please decide quickly on this, because I see there is already > > > contrib > > > > related activity that I am missing... > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Anca > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Eduard Moraru < > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Hi, > > > >> > > > > >> > > On 08 Apr 2016, at 11:43, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Hello all, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Since http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/jrug6cbbqpia5bx4 (but > not > > > only) > > > >> > the > > > >> > > rule says that we should discuss contrib related stuff with the > > > >> > community. > > > >> > > In my case, I cannot manage to follow all the mails on the > > > >> > [email protected] > > > >> > > (because they are a lot) but I would be particularly interested > of > > > not > > > >> > > missing the ones about contrib extensions. > > > >> > > > > >> > Since the dev rules for xwiki contrib are now the same as for > xwiki > > > core > > > >> > (i.e. dev.xwiki.org), I’m not sure if it makes sense to > > differentiate > > > >> > proposals. Maybe you could just filter mails with "[Proposal]" and > > > >> "[VOTE]”? > > > >> > > > > >> > > However, today, I don't know how > > > >> > > to differentiate them, I would need to read all [email protected] > to > > > not > > > >> > miss > > > >> > > one. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > There are multiple solutions that I can propose for this, please > > > let me > > > >> > > know what you think: > > > >> > > 1/ have a contrib mailing list > > > >> > > > > >> > I feel that xwiki-contrib might be large enough now to warrant a > > > mailing > > > >> > list but maybe not 2 (users and devs). > > > >> > > > > >> > However there are issues: > > > >> > > > > >> > * Notifications from jira. We could have a single > [email protected] > > > >> > mailing for everything related to contrib (users, devs, > > > notifications). > > > >> > > > > >> > * Users don’t know if what they’re using from e.x.o is from Core > or > > > from > > > >> > Contrib so they’d have a hard time choosing the right list from > > > >> > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/MailingLists. For > > > example > > > >> > right now we have: "[email protected] : For questions about using > > > XWiki, > > > >> > using the XWiki API, suggestions for improvements, ideas, etc.” > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > 2/ have an alias for the contrib that would send on the same > list, > > > this > > > >> > way > > > >> > > we could filter by the "to" field > > > >> > > 3/ have a convention about mails related to contrib (e.g. > > [Contrib] > > > in > > > >> > the > > > >> > > subject) that would allow to filter > > > >> > > > > >> > This is probably the simplest ATM. The pros is that it wouldn’t > > create > > > >> any > > > >> > fragmentation between Contrib and Core, which is probably a good > > > thing. > > > >> > > > > >> > > 4/ any other technical solution that I didn't think about that > > would > > > >> > allow > > > >> > > to automatically decide if a mail is about contrib or not, > without > > > >> > reading > > > >> > > it :D > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > 1, 2 and even 4 are perfectly fine with me, 3 is a bit risky > > because > > > >> > people > > > >> > > might not follow conventions. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > What do you think? > > > >> > > > > >> > If we follow the direction that we’re trying to take, which is to > > > have a > > > >> > single large community (ie bring contrib and core together), I > think > > > the > > > >> > best is to keep using the same lists as now but do a best effort > of > > > using > > > >> > "[Contrib]” for mails related only to contrib stuff. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> IMO contrib devs should be up to date with the changes in the > platform > > > and > > > >> we should keep the communication tight with the platform. As we can > > see, > > > >> many topics on contrib apps trace down to the platform and > vice-versa. > > > >> > > > >> It would also not be very helpful for the project/community to do > > such a > > > >> segregation, so I agree with Vincent. > > > >> > > > >> Since we are talking about contrib (which are devs and which have a > > > guide > > > >> to follow), as Thomas suggested, it would be a helpful idea to > mention > > > the > > > >> app in the subject so that we can apply filters in the mail client, > > > should > > > >> we need them. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Eduard > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks > > > >> > -Vincent > > > >> > > > > >> > > Anca > > > >> > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > devs mailing list > > > >> > [email protected] > > > >> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> devs mailing list > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > devs mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thomas Mortagne > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
