On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > On 28 Nov 2016, at 16:18, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On 11/28/2016 09:35 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
> >>>>> I believe a "Developer" user is what we really need.
> >>>>
> >>>> Actually that wouldn’t solve the problem I had either since it would
> mean
> >>>> having to navigate to the user profile, make the change, go back to
> where
> >>>> you were, check the hidden docs, then go back again to your user
> profile,
> >>>> put back the profile again and navigate back… Doesn’t work!
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Of course the "Developer" user would have the "show hidden docs" option
> >>> enabled, and would be an "advanced user", so all you would have to do
> is to
> >>> log-in as "Developer”.
> >>
> >> Yes but Developers are not the only category of people who may need to
> see hidden docs easily.
> >>
> >
> > I don't quite agree. Why would a non-developer be interested in a code
> > page? I can think of three reasons:
> >
> > - the page shouldn't have been hidden if users want to reach it
> > - the user is trying to change something in the code, which is actually
> > a developer task, so even if the user isn't an actual developer, he acts
> > as one temporarily
> > - the user is trying to adjust something, which means that there's a
> > configuration missing; still, I'd argue that this is also a developer
> task
>
> Actually I’m sure there are plenty of other use cases. Let me list just 2
> that comes to my mind:
>
> - The user has deleted some page without checking the “delete” children
> and there were hidden docs in there and he needs to see what those pages
> are.



> In the past, we had users who could not understand why their “page”
> (actually the space) wasn’t deleted and why they were still seeing a node
> in the Document Tree for them.
>

If a page is shown in the Document Tree then it's either non-hidden or it
has a non-hidden descendant page.


>
> - The user is an Admin or an advanced users and need to do some gardening
> on the wiki and see that pages are located in the right places according to
> the defined taxonomy. He doesn’t need to be a developer to be a gardnerer
> (and he doesn’t need to understand the code on those pages either).
>
> Right now the “Hide/Show hidden docs” is not a feature attached to any
> profile and I really believe it’s best to keep it like that (allows for all
> use cases).
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > --
> > Sergiu Dumitriu
> > http://purl.org/net/sergiu
>
>

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