On 7 July 2016 at 17:36, Pete Muir <[email protected]> wrote: > Hardy, Lala and the rest of the ADB team are going to investigate this > over the next few weeks (whether we can replace the ADB infra with > minishift). > > For the product version it must be based on something that we > productise (which currently is RHEL or Atomic AFAIK) - doing it on top > of something like Alpine is not an option.
You can see what it's built from at https://hub.docker.com/r/boot2docker/boot2docker/~/dockerfile/ . Don't worry about the FROM debian:jessie - that's just to create the builder image. You can see the minimal stuff it's actually installing in the final ISO. > > I would also worry about having a radically different upstream from > the product version, as I think this can cause bugs, but I'll leave > this one to the team to figure out :-) > > I've also asked Ian a few times if we can try to build smaller images > - something to keep trying for ;-) I don't see why we couldn't have the equivalent of boot2docker.iso image that minikube uses: basically a kernel & docker.... that's it. Sure we can use a RHEL/CentOS kernel, right? Just please not the whole RHEL install ;) > > On 7 July 2016 at 17:26, Clayton Coleman <[email protected]> wrote: >> The iso for this really belongs to ADB - if this is going to be something we >> actually promote I'd prefer for the ADB guys to own more of this so we can >> actually have a chance of this being real, vs a spin off thing that doesn't >> ultimately go anywhere. >> >> As long as the mini bit isn't making too many assumptions about the ISO, >> this is something we can iterate on. >> >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Jimmi Dyson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On 7 July 2016 at 16:09, Clayton Coleman <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> On Jul 7, 2016, at 4:24 AM, Jimmi Dyson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I've started minishift (fork of minikube) at >>> >> https://github.com/jimmidyson/minishift if anyone wants to try it out. >>> >> Will publish a first release of it later today or tomorrow hopefully. >>> >> All feedback welcome - building is pretty simple, as long as you have >>> >> the Go toolchain setup. >>> >> >>> >>> would this be able to run red hat's variation of docker ? >>> >> >>> >> Of course we can but the question is what benefit it brings? As this >>> >> is only for single dev, easy getting started & play what Docker >>> >> version is being used should be inconsequential to the ux. The only >>> >> problem I can see with using RHT's Docker is the size of the ISO that >>> >> minishift will need to download to start the VM. Right now this is >>> >> ~36MB & this allows for really speedy startup (effectively no waiting >>> >> for download). Switching to RHT's Docker & potentially CentOS/RHEL I >>> >> would expect this to grow, which isn't terrible but would affect the >>> >> ux somewhat. >>> > >>> > Not running the Red Hat Docker is a serious problem for OpenShift / >>> > Kube, simply given the instability and gaps in upstream Docker. While >>> > we're not running production workloads, it's really difficult to >>> > certify and fix issues. >>> >>> If someone can provide me with a URL to a simple tarball of RHT Docker >>> if it's available I'm more than happy to use that in the ISO, but >>> obviously don't want to have to include a full on yum install, etc >>> which will bloat the ISO for little value in this case. >>> >>> > >>> > I have trouble believing we can't match he size of that iso in practical >>> > terms. >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> and how about openshift itself ? >>> >> >>> >> Minishift runs latest version of OpenShift (latest version at time of >>> >> build embedded in the minishift binary for speedy start up time) & I >>> >> am going to make the version configurable via flags which will >>> >> download the specified release from github on startup, with caching >>> >> for subsequent runs, etc. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> Jimmi >>> >> >>> >>> On 6 July 2016 at 08:32, Hardy Ferentschik <[email protected]> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 06-Jul-2016 00:53, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: >>> >>>> looks great. would this be able to run red hat's variation of docker >>> >>>> ? and >>> >>>> how about openshift itself ? >>> >>> >>> >>> My thinking as well. Might be worth investigating. A miniopenshift >>> >>> would have >>> >>> a great appeal. >>> >>> >>> >>> --Hardy >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Devtools mailing list >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/devtools >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Devtools mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/devtools >> _______________________________________________ Devtools mailing list [email protected] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/devtools
