On 7 July 2016 at 19:35, Lalatendu Mohanty <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 07/07/2016 10:37 PM, Pete Muir wrote:
>>
>> On 7 July 2016 at 17:55, Clayton Coleman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Jimmi Dyson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 7 July 2016 at 17:36, Pete Muir <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hardy, Lala and the rest of the ADB team are going to investigate this
>>>>> over the next few weeks (whether we can replace the ADB infra with
>>>>> minishift).
>>>>>
>>>>> For the product version it must be based on something that we
>>>>> productise (which currently is RHEL or Atomic AFAIK) - doing it on top
>>>>> of something like Alpine is not an option.
>>>>
>>>> You can see what it's built from at
>>>> https://hub.docker.com/r/boot2docker/boot2docker/~/dockerfile/ . Don't
>>>> worry about the FROM debian:jessie - that's just to create the builder
>>>> image. You can see the minimal stuff it's actually installing in the
>>>> final ISO.
>>>>
>>>>> I would also worry about having a radically different upstream from
>>>>> the product version, as I think this can cause bugs, but I'll leave
>>>>> this one to the team to figure out :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also asked Ian a few times if we can try to build smaller images
>>>>> - something to keep trying for ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I don't see why we couldn't have the equivalent of boot2docker.iso
>>>> image that minikube uses: basically a kernel & docker.... that's it.
>>>> Sure we can use a RHEL/CentOS kernel, right? Just please not the whole
>>>> RHEL install ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed.  I think Pete and I are just saying that we need to make an
>>> effort
>>> to fix the actual problem (we don't have a small ISO for RHEL/CentOS that
>>> represents our strengths in containers), and that we should also be
>>> taking
>>> those steps in parallel.
>>
>> Exactly. I also still don't understand why we don't ship Atomic Host
>> as the default OS in the container runtime portion of the CDK - this
>> seems like an obvious thing to do .
>
>
> I think we should incorporate container runtime portion of  Atomic host  in
> CDK. It makes more sense in current context as we are running OpenShift and
> Kubernetes as containers. Just to add bit of history ,  when we started CDK
> 2.0 we were not sure if using Atomic host is a good idea as the file system
> of Atomic host is read-only except /etc and /var.
>
> Also we need to take decision around if we want to keep the Kubernetes
> single node setup relevant in CDK context as my recent understanding is that
> we are encouraging users to use OpenShift for Kubernetes specific usage.

I would suggest raising this again in about 4 weeks if you haven't got
a decision - we aren't quite there yet.

>
> Thanks,
> Lala
>
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