We can do epub as well and distribute for Kindle. I had this in the build previously, but we can addnit back if it's useful
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016, 17:41 Bob Jolliffe <[email protected]> wrote: > yup. as I've said before I think we have a good 2 years plus mileage to > be had out of docbook 5 yet. These things will take some time to reach > close to docbook level of maturity. > > but they will. The docbook experts (particularly the all important ones > working for o'reilly) are already beating that trail for us. > > Was pleased to see Cecillia has been able to generate webhelp off the > docbook already which is cool. Another fun thing to add to your hairy > maven build :-) > > On 26 April 2016 at 17:35, Jason Pickering <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Well, having spent the last week almost converting the docs to docbook 5, >> I suggest we wait to hear what the docbook experts have to say first. đŸ˜‰In >> principle, it sounds good. However, we have a very solid tool chain at the >> moment and I wonder if the same set of tools exists for this (draft) >> standard. When oasis adopts it, and there are good tool chains to support >> it, it may be worth the switch. >> >> But, let's not get involved too deeply in framework debates. We are >> extremely fortunate to have two technical writers on the team, which has >> lead to great improvements already. >> >> Maybe can develop the XSLT to convert the current docs to this format? In >> the meantime, there are still outstanding technical issues which I will try >> and resolve with the docs while our tech writers can focus on the content. >> >> Thanks for sharing and it does look good. >> >> Regards, >> Jason >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016, 17:26 Bob Jolliffe <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> A small glimpse at the (open) future of publishing: >>> >>> >>> http://www.balisage.net/Proceedings/vol10/print/Kleinfeld01/BalisageVol10-Kleinfeld01.html >>> >>> On 11 April 2016 at 12:11, Jason Pickering <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Perhaps this is possible, but not all of us have access to the UiO >>> license, >>> > and the license conditions may prevent onward distribution of this to >>> > community members outside of UiO. Not sure. Anyway, it may be best to >>> engage >>> > with oXygen and see what the terms and conditions are, assuming this >>> is the >>> > direction we want to go. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Morten Olav Hansen <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> We already have university licenses for oXygen XML, maybe that also >>> >> entitles us to a license for the web version? (if you want to use that >>> >> instead) >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Morten Olav Hansen >>> >> Senior Engineer, DHIS 2 >>> >> University of Oslo >>> >> http://www.dhis2.org >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Jason Pickering >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Knut, >>> >>> >>> >>> If it would get you writing some docs, it would be well worth it. :) >>> >>> >>> >>> Seriously though, these are floating licenses, so they would be good >>> for >>> >>> more than 5 people. We have two dedicated technical writers now, but >>> up >>> >>> until now, there have been few people actually writing the docs. So, >>> these >>> >>> five licenses would go a long way. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Knut Staring <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> 200$/month for 5 people, that is. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Not saying that price may not be worth paying if it helps >>> productivity. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Knut Staring <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Did you not have to sign up for the free trial license? >>> >>>>> Our free trial includes all of the features of Oxygen XML Web >>> Author >>> >>>>> for a maximum of 30 days >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Seems to be 200 USD per month? >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> oXygen XML Web Author uses a subscription floating license model >>> with a >>> >>>>> minimum commitment period of 12 months. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Jason Pickering >>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> I found what looks like a too-good-to-be-true WebApp version of >>> Oxygen >>> >>>>>> from the Google Play Store, which offers integration with GitHub. >>> It seems >>> >>>>>> to work. Might offer a new editor to replace my beloved >>> deprecated Serna. >>> >>>>>> You can try it out by adding oXygen XML WebApp extension to >>> Chrome. >>> >>>>>> Seems pretty sweet, but not sure if this is just a demo or >>> something which >>> >>>>>> is actually fully functional and free? >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Regards, >>> >>>>>> Jason >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Bob Jolliffe < >>> [email protected]> >>> >>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> http://docbkx-tools.sourceforge.net/docbkx-samples/manual.html >>> seems >>> >>>>>>> to suggest 5.0 is now supported. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> One of the features i have seen touted in 5.1 which is also part >>> of >>> >>>>>>> DITA (and no doubt Flare) is support for "topics". I guess the >>> idea >>> >>>>>>> here, to use the elearning jargon, is to be able to make >>> reusabale >>> >>>>>>> learning objects which can be differently combined in scorm >>> modules >>> >>>>>>> and the like. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> I do agree that at the moment the priority really should be more >>> and >>> >>>>>>> improved content. While we have that content in docbook xxx xml >>> we >>> >>>>>>> know that it is not going to be lost and can be shimmied into >>> >>>>>>> whatever >>> >>>>>>> the toolchain of the future might be. In fact i am regretting >>> >>>>>>> getting >>> >>>>>>> involved in this thread at all, but I am glad you got rid of the >>> >>>>>>> Serna >>> >>>>>>> free comments :-) Back to work. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> On 8 April 2016 at 04:13, Jason Pickering >>> >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> > Hi Bob, >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > Again, I think the fact that docbook has moved on is to us, >>> not so >>> >>>>>>> > important. We are using a very small subset of what docbook >>> offers, >>> >>>>>>> > and >>> >>>>>>> > there are no real differences between 4.4 and 5.0 for our >>> purposes, >>> >>>>>>> > at least >>> >>>>>>> > which I have seen. One issue which we should investigate more >>> is >>> >>>>>>> > the >>> >>>>>>> > supposed improved indexing in 5.0, which I have not been able >>> to >>> >>>>>>> > get to >>> >>>>>>> > work. >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > The major issue with upgrading the dependency from 4.4 to 4.5 >>> of >>> >>>>>>> > docbook >>> >>>>>>> > seems to be the lack of a publicly available maven artifact for >>> >>>>>>> > either 4.4 >>> >>>>>>> > or 5.0. We could of course build it ourselves, or try and find >>> >>>>>>> > somewhere >>> >>>>>>> > where its actually available, but since I managed to get this >>> >>>>>>> > combination >>> >>>>>>> > working, I never really investigated it further. >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > So again to emphasize, the reason we are using 4.4 is because >>> of >>> >>>>>>> > the tool >>> >>>>>>> > chain (docbkx) and getting that to work with either Docbook >>> 4.5 or >>> >>>>>>> > 5.0. >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > Regards, >>> >>>>>>> > Jason >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Bob Jolliffe >>> >>>>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> Jason I saw your sed script to remove comments. That is that >>> >>>>>>> >> problem >>> >>>>>>> >> solved :-) >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> I don't have any problem with the docbook toolchain and >>> wouldn't >>> >>>>>>> >> lightly consider changing it. I think it works well. There >>> is >>> >>>>>>> >> some >>> >>>>>>> >> learning involved and a shortage of non-technical tooling but >>> yet >>> >>>>>>> >> it >>> >>>>>>> >> works well. I would consider upgrading to 5.0 (or 5.1) as >>> that >>> >>>>>>> >> might >>> >>>>>>> >> widen the scope of tooling available and would be relatively >>> >>>>>>> >> painless. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> But I agree that we need to focus on the concrete requirements >>> >>>>>>> >> rather >>> >>>>>>> >> than products. And most of all, the content. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> On 7 April 2016 at 14:40, Jason Pickering >>> >>>>>>> >> <[email protected]> >>> >>>>>>> >> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >> > Perhaps, but see my earlier mail regarding framework wars. >>> >>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> >> > This is the same discussion we are having about testing, use >>> >>>>>>> >> > this >>> >>>>>>> >> > framework >>> >>>>>>> >> > or that framework. However, there are still too few tests, >>> as no >>> >>>>>>> >> > one can >>> >>>>>>> >> > agree. >>> >>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> >> > We have something which works. We have content which needs >>> to be >>> >>>>>>> >> > improved >>> >>>>>>> >> > and updated. If there is a compelling reason to move away >>> from >>> >>>>>>> >> > something >>> >>>>>>> >> > which, albeit somewhat dated ...works, maybe it would be >>> good to >>> >>>>>>> >> > outline >>> >>>>>>> >> > the >>> >>>>>>> >> > reasons for this change. >>> >>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> >> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Knut Staring < >>> [email protected]> >>> >>>>>>> >> > wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> I see that Flare supports DITA, would that be a good >>> >>>>>>> >> >> alternative to >>> >>>>>>> >> >> DocBook? >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> http://dita.xml.org/ >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Bob Jolliffe >>> >>>>>>> >> >> <[email protected]> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> On a spectrum between low-level standardized technical >>> docbook >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> through >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> to "user friendly" (use Word), vendor-locked proprietary >>> and >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> patent >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> encumbered technology, this one seems to fall on the far >>> right >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> :-) >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> Not quite what I had in mind. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> I can see the attraction but I would be very wary to go in >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> this >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> direction. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> On 7 April 2016 at 13:52, Rachael Brooke < >>> [email protected]> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > Hi everyone, >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > Cecilia and I have been thinking about trying out a new >>> tool >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > that >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > could >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > handle big documentation projects, translation files and >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > other >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > resources. So >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > it's good timing that this issue is being raised by you. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > We were considering looking into a solution which you >>> may >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > know, >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > called >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > MadCap Flare: >>> http://www.madcapsoftware.com/products/flare/. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > If you have any other suggestions, we'd be happy to hear >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > your >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > thoughts. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > Thanks for bringing this up - we're investigating! >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > Rachael >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Knut Staring >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > <[email protected]> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> Would be good to hear from our new documentation >>> experts >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> (Rachael >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> and >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> Cecilia) on this issue (what kinds of tools they would >>> be >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> comfortable >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> with >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> etc). >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> Knut >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Bob Jolliffe >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> <[email protected]> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> Hi Jason, Lars >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> I am not sure the link about oxygen nested comments is >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> really >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> addressing the "thing". >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> I agree with Lars that having the "<!-- Created by >>> Serna >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> Free -->" >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> text inserted into all our documents is ugly, wrong >>> and >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> misleading. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> If you are using Serna Free I think it might be a >>> simple >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> courtesy >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> to >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> just strip those comments before committing. Of >>> course >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> its >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> possible >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> to forget and maybe some sort of removal hook could be >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> configured >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> automatically (sed, xsltproc ..) but its maybe not so >>> hard >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> to just >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> delete the line. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> I am not sure of what the problem is with oxygen >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> encountering >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> these >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> comments are though. Maybe I also don't get the >>> "thing" >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> :-) I >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> open >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> the docbook files with oxygen and don't encounter a >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> problem >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> related >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> to >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> the comment. The docbook4 "type" seems to be >>> immediately >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> recognized >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> and I get a Docbook4 menu appear when I switch to >>> author >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> mode >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> whether >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> the comment is there or not. Is it an oxygen version >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> issue (I >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> currently use 17.1) or is there some other issue I am >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> missing? >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> Though I think there are deeper issues at play. >>> First is >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> that >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> Serna >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> Free seems no longer to be maintained (as a free >>> version). >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> One >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> consequence of this being that using it keeps us >>> frozen in >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> time at >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> docbook 4.4. The last release of the docbook 4.x >>> series >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> was 4.5 >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> back >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> in 2006. The 5.0 (and now 5.1) series has been out >>> for >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> quite a >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> long >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> time now (2009?). AFAIK the only reason for sticking >>> with >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> 4.x has >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> been the availability of Serna Free. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> (Which is not a small thing. The sad truth is that >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> another good >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> free >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> candidate for docbook editing by non-technical authors >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> hasn't ever >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> emerged. Of course if you are more than a bit geeky >>> then >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> emacs >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> does >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> a >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> good job. But even I don't use emacs anymore for >>> editing >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> docbook >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> documents. I use oxygen, which is not free.) >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> Two thoughts come to mind: >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> (i) it probably really makes sense to rejoin the >>> (docbook) >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> world >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> and >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> move from 4.4 to 5.0. Particularly if the now defunct >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> Serna Free >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> is >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> the only factor holding us back. I understand that >>> there >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> are >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> transforms available to make this a painless >>> journey. The >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> best >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> available in terms of free editing tools with a strong >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> docbook >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> focus >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> seems to be the eclipse DEP4E plugin. Otherwise >>> there are >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> the >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> non-free tools as well as host of xml schema aware >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> editors. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> Admittedly none of these really qualify as eminently >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> suitable for >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> non-technical authors so the problem isn't really >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> completely >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> solved, >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> but maybe improved slightly. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> (ii) more radically, it might be time to consider >>> moving >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> from >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> docbook >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> altogether. There are a host of "cool" alternatives >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> (markdown and >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> friends) none of which I am fond of, but they have >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> enthusiastic >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> supporters. To me they all seem like endless >>> reinventions >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> of >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> roff/nroff/groff and certainly lack the maturity of >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> docbook. But >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> maybe the world has moved to a stage that its >>> possible to >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> consider >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> editing html5/css3 documents directly? Certainly >>> there is >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> considerable user friendly editing tools available. >>> And >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> conversion >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> to >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> pdf seems not to be a problem. Though whether this >>> would >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> cause >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> the >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> clean structure of documents to descend into anarchy I >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> don't >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> really >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> know. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> My 2 cents. I would certainly advocate (i) above >>> (though >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> admit >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> its a >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> strong response to just getting rid of Serna Free >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> comments). (ii) >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> frightens me quite a bit. Certainly would be a lot of >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> work. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> In the end comes down to (i) who will do most of the >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> documentation >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> and >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> what do they like or tolerate, (ii) what effort is >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> justified to >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> fiddle >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> with what is really quite a nice looking set of >>> existing >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> documentation. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> For the moment lets at least agree to keep those >>> horrible >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> comments >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> out. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> Bob >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> On 6 April 2016 at 11:31, Jason Pickering >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> <[email protected]> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> > For instance, perhaps this >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> > http://www.oxygenxml.com/forum/topic3658.html >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> > which seems to describe a means of getting around >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> > comments. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Jason Pickering >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> Hi Lars, >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> I think there must be a way around this, and I >>> would >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> not be in >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> favor >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> at >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> all of ditching Serna. Its a good tool and not >>> everyone >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> has >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> access >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> to >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> a >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> relatively expensive commercial tool like Oxygen. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> Serna Free inserts this automatically unfortunately >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> when it >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> saves >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> the >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> document, but lets look for a look around to deal >>> with >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> this in >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> Oxygen. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> Regards, >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> Jason >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Lars Helge Ă˜verland >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> <[email protected]> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> re the documentation.The Serna editor horribly >>> inserts >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> a >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> <!-- Created by Serna Free --> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> comment in all files it creates before the DTD. >>> This >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> throws >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> off >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> Oxygen >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> from detecting it to be a Docbook format. Lets >>> not use >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> Serna >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> anymore >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> or at >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> least make sure we don't get comments in the >>> beginning >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> of >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> docbook >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> xml >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> files. >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> Lars >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> Lars Helge Ă˜verland >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> Lead developer, DHIS 2 >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> University of Oslo >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> Skype: larshelgeoverland >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> http://www.dhis2.org >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> Mailing list: >>> https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-documenters >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> Post to : >>> [email protected] >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe : >>> https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-documenters >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> -- >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >> Jason P. 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