"Nick Sabalausky" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... > "Lutger" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected]... >> Nick Sabalausky wrote: >> >>> "Stephan Soller" <[email protected]> wrote in message >>>> >>>> Maybe you should consider looking into some other browsers? Opera, >>>> Chrome >>>> and other Gecko based browsers might give you a better experience that >>>> the >>>> newer Firefox versions. This is the reason why there are different >>>> browsers after all. >>>> >>> >>> - Safari is ruled out because it's a blurry mess (all for the sake of >>> making >>> it look more like the printed version? WTF?) and forces useless >>> background >>> processes, has zero respect for my system's look-and-feel, and has no >>> "Adblock Plus", "NoScript", or "BetterPrivacy" (Three FF add-ons that >>> provide functionality that, for me, are absolutely 100% essential). >>> >>> - IE7+ is out because it has no "Adblock Plus", "NoScript", or >>> "BetterPrivacy", and I don't like the unified forward/back buttons. >>> >>> - Iron is out because I *hate* absolutely everything about it's UI, and >>> it >>> doesn't have "NoScript" (I've heard it has "AdBlock Plus", but I didn't >>> see >>> it when I first looked so I don't know). Also, configurability seems to >>> be >>> practically non-existent compared to FF. >>> >>> - Chrome is out because of all the reasons for which Iron was created in >>> the >>> first place. I won't even allow Chrome (or Safari) on my computer at >>> all. >>> >>> - Opera is ruled out because it costs money and every time I tried the >>> demos >>> it seemed to combine the worst aspects of all the other browsers, plus >>> had >>> by far the most rendering problems. >>> >>> - And everything else like IE6-, Netscape, WebTV, Lynx, etc are all >>> ruled >>> out for obvious reasons. >> >> Perhaps try firefox 4 (beta)? It is much faster, probably on par with >> chrome >> now, and it looks a bit cleaner designed. >> > > I'll probably try it at some point, but I seriously doubt it won't be the > same story as FF3. It's Mozilla's basic nature to refuse to allow users to > disable any of Mozilla's beloved *cough* "improvements", and to merely > scoff whenever people don't like it. They're never shown any interest in > making anything about the AwfulBar optional. Same with the unified > forward/back buttons, or every ugly-ass theme FF has insisted on using > starting with FF2 (That's why I use Winestripe.) And like most developers, > they've never shown any respect for people with light-on-dark schemes. > Etc, etc, etc, And they're a bunch or arrogant douchebags to boot. > Mozilla just has their heads ten miles up their asses and that's all there > is to it, and I don't believe for a second anything's ever going to change > that. > > Like I said, I'll probably try it at some point, but I *very* much doubt > it won't be the same story as FF3. And from the screenshots, it looks like > it'll end up absolutely horrid-looking on the Win Classic theme, just like > FF2 and FF3 and just like every Windows program these days that's designed > to assume the user is running that god-awful Aero theme (I think the only > reason people think Aero looks good is because it's not as bad as Luna, > and most people were too stupid to realize XP's Luna was optional.) Plus, > it looks like they're trying to ape IE7/8 and Chrome, and I think those > are some of the most butt-ugly and shitty-UI browsers ever made > (*especially* Chrome). >
Just found a portable install of FF4 and tried it. And yea, pretty much like I expected. Just like all the other software being made these days, it refuses to use anything even resembling my native UI. Not to the horrid extent of Chrome/Iron, but still far worse then FF2+Winestripe. And, of course, there's no option to make it use native. There's no options to get rid of the AwfulBar, in whole or in part. There's no option to de-unify the unified forward/back buttons. And as far as finding add-ons to take care of that stuff, I'm not interested in loading my browser down with even *more* add-ons than I'm already using. I'd rather do without all the pointless animations, but, again, they don't seem to allow that. And there's still a bunch of irritating tooltips, although FF2 has them too (But you'd think that *by now* they'd have had a chance to put in an option to disable them.) It is faster, but that's not enough to make up for a shit UI.
