On Monday, 30 October 2017 at 17:35:51 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
On Monday, 30 October 2017 at 16:50:42 UTC, Joakim wrote:
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No, it happens when they streamline and automate their entire workflow much more, to the point where they aren't using antiquated document systems anymore:

http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2015/5/21/office-messaging-and-verbs

I've never written a single document in the entire time I've contributed to the D open source project. That's because we replace that ancient document workflow with forums, email, gitter, bugzilla, git, and github, some of which is also fairly old tech, but not nearly so as typing up a bunch of documents or spreadsheets.

Of course, the D OSS project isn't a business, but the point is made in that linked post: most businesses are also about to transition away from that doc workflow altogether, where they simply replaced a bunch of printed documents and balance sheets with digital versions of the _same_ documents over the last couple decades. It's time for them to make the true digital transition, or they will lose out to those who did and became more efficient for it.

Lyft and Uber are merely two public examples of the leading edge of this wave.


You're making a broader point about Lyft and Uber that I agree with. Automating certain things and providing a digital platform has been very successful for them. But taxicab companies switching from Excel to Google docs wouldn't have solved anything for them. Taxicab companies in London and other places have found better ways to adapt (excepting through increased regulations) by offering their own apps to compete.

Similarly, the investment management industry (my industry) has seen a large increase in the share of passive management over the past 10 years (and a corresponding decline in the share of active management). Switching from Excel to Google docs is irrelevant. There are broader competitive forces at work.

Now, these competitive forces have been shaped by computer-driven investing and a reduction in costs. So in this sense, your broader point has validity, but perhaps the way you were expressing it with regard to Office vs. Google Docs was not convincing.

That's because I never made that Office/Docs comparison in the first place, I merely gave an example of someone plausibly replacing their current Windows/Excel workflow with Android/Docs in a decade. The operative comparison there is mobile Android versus desktop/laptop Windows, Docs doesn't even matter as Excel also runs on mobile.

I was talking about the mobile shift being so big that it takes out a host of Windows PC-driven shops. I also tangentially mentioned that I don't think people will be using Office _or_ Docs in a decade, which is the bigger shift you seemed to want to explore, so I expanded on it.

Lyft and Uber are particularly apposite because they've ridden both shifts to quick success.

Do those Python/Numpy users have the level of VS or other Windows IDE support that D currently doesn't?

You don't need VS with Python/Numpy, but python has a large number of IDEs available. I haven't used them, but they are there. The only thing I ever used was Ipython notebooks, which became Jupyter.

Never used Jupyter but I see that it's a webapp, so it should work fine on mobile, or as a frontend for a cloud instance.

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