> One is I would like to see a sub-band for the automatic stations, even 
> if it is just a gentleman agreement like the current agreements. 

There are too many Hams who are not "gentlemen" using
modes where they may easily be ID'd by 100% of Hams. This
tells us that on a mode where they'd only risk ID by
fewer than 1% of licensed Hams we may expect much worse
behavior.

A voluntary subband presumes good will.  This is, IMHO,
a somewhat Pollyannish presumption given the historic
evidence.  This is also a philosophical/sociological
question I suppose.

Below I have offered a possible technological solution
for the consideration of folks on the list, the ARRL,
and the FCC.

> Second is if you operate in the subband you have to take the QRM that 
> comes with it, and if it means that a automatic station comes on 
> without checking to see if the freq is busy so be it, you know that in 
> the subband it might happen. Also just because you can hear the 
> automatic station does not mean that it can hear you, so even if does 
> check, doesn't mean it won't start transmitting because it might not 
> have heard you anyway.
> Just my opinion.  Kurt WA8VBX

Why not require WinLink and similar apps to poll both
ends to be sure *neither* hears anything *prior* to
engaging a continued QSO?

This should neutralize the "could not hear them at my
end" problem.

Station A checks the frequency for activity and finds
nothing.  Station A then calls Station B (or issues a
general CQ).  When Station B replies Station A acknowledges
then goes silent until Station B also checks for activity.
*Only* when *both* have verified that their QSO will not
QRM an existing QSO may they QSO.

There *has* to be a solution to the automatic station
QRM challenge (whether one postulates it as rare or as
common it is a serious problem that will grow if the
mode grows in popularity).

Does my suggestion have technical merit?

73, doc kd4e


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