On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 09:57:04 -0600 Mike Emmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> On 1/7/06, Daniel Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > All this GTK work is very exciting ground for directfb.
> >
> > I presume the next version of cairo that is released will have this in and i
> > am hoping that gtk will support the DFB backend soon as this really builds
> > momentum for this API.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a question though and that is has anyone tried
> > http://www.enlightenment.org/ version D17 of this says it supports DirectFB
> >
> > Any triers?
> >
> > Any opinions.
> >
> I've played with it before I upgraded the gtk port for directfb.
> It has a lot of good ideas but the problem is it replicates a lot of
> functionality found in lower level libraries and does not provide a
> complete solution ala gtk so its a bit of and oddball. Basically you
> can add enlightenment but generally it does not replace anything.
> Evas for example is cool but its not a complete 2D stack like cairo so
> you end up
> looking at cairo on evas then wonder why am i using evas ?

cairo != evas. cairo is a 2d vector lib with immediate mode rendering. evas is
a structured mode canvas with persistant objects. it works for our needs quite
well. :) unlike cairo it has a blazing fast software engine and is entirely
usable without hardware aceleration. (evas's software engine is an order of
about 20-30 times faster than cairo. evas also has an xrender engine, opengl,
directfb, runs in the linux framebuffer, can render to memory buffers, supports
qtopia and has a cairo engine that is half complete but was not worth
completing due to performance issues). evas is designed for doing specific
kinds of "display" in a certain way - it's not everything for everyone, but
"full" solutions exist on top. ETK and EWL are 2 widget sets that sit on top of
evas that provide a large set of widgets and they are growing.

anyway - :) just thought i needed to unlurk :) i agree - evas is not a complete
stack/solution - it's special for certain things, but what it does. it does
very well and very fast, with good quality. we are improving its primitive
support to make it do more - and it's design is easily expandible  :)

> But I do agree with the overall high level design he is on the right track.
> It should port fairly quickly to directfb I did not see that as a problem.
> 
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> > Keep up the good work on gtk+webcore, cairo, gtk etc
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