Can confirm. I’m starting on a new project where I’m going to be pushing a bunch of GNUStep apps into Debian-based Docker containers in the cloud and I ended up setting up my own apt server to host the gnustep packages (which I stole from Andreas’s apt server. Thanks, Andreas, by the way lol)

Project goal should be for the instructions to get a working gnustep environment (in Debian) to be as simple as:

> sudo apt install gnustep 

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On Oct 17, 2023, at 14:34, Andreas Fink <[email protected]> wrote:


thats something i totally agree. Im building my own gnustep packages since many years (since Debian 8) because without clang and objC 2.0 features such as ARC i can not get anything done. Clang version and specific linker dependencies dont help new users to succeed under Debian neither. Cross Platform development is important for me as i use the same codebase under MacOS and Linux and FreeBSD

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On Dienstag, Okt. 17, 2023 at 8:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
One major problem I see is that distributions package a completely unconfigured and outdated version. Part of the motive for my little Agora project is to address that issue, by shipping a fully configured, up to date GNUstep environment. 

On Oct 17, 2023, at 9:18 AM, Gregory Casamento <[email protected]> wrote:

This guy is misled about a lot of things but his experience reflects the experience a lot of people have.  Let’s try to improve this.  This literally upset me. 

Yours, GC

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