> > You don't have the time to learn a little simple perl and SQL?
> 
> I think you are over simplifying.  It takes a little more than some
> "simple" "simple" perl and SQL to do the tasks. For one I would have to 
> understand what I was trying to do, where place the program, how to 
> interface with the OpenSRS software client. It would take at least some 
> basic knowledge of Apache, DNS, some programming experience (people just 
> don't wake up and start programming ... there is *some* skill required to 
> program) I would also need a little skill on how to debug perl programs, or 
> learn on the job.
> 
> So I will agree it is not a very difficult task for someone with some 
> experience in programming, some sql experience, some apache experience, 
> some dns experience ;) Basically someone with your technical background and 
> skill might take all that for granted.
> 
David, you've made some very valid points, and I can understand your 
position, but I've been ploughing through your messages this morning (for 
that is what is in Ireland), and you're simply not making sense.

You've contradticted yourself several times in your last three or four 
posting. By your own admission, here and in at least one other posting, you 
admit that you don't have the technical know-how to implement these value-
added services, which, as William pointed out, OpenSRS have thus far being 
telling us is how to compete. Yet you tell us in other postings that by 
implementing these value adds, you will have more time to spend on marketing, 
selling and supporting them. But how can you market, sell, or more 
importantly SUPPORT something you simply don't understand?

This is like RSP's who continue to work solely on the OpenSRS UI, because 
they're too lazy to install the scripts on their server. Even I don't have a 
world-available UI, but at least I took the time to install the UI on my 
server for my own use. These people shouldn't be allowed use the RSP system. 
I'm not saying you're doing this, I'm saying that people probably are, and 
they're the people who'll use the value-adds to compete with people who are 
much more deserving - people who have put time and effort into developing 
their own value-add's, and UNDERSTAND them, and so can SUPPORT them.

But this brew-ha-ha is turning into a "you're wrong and I'm right" argument, 
which is achieving nothing, aside from filling up my Inbox with the same 
arguments over and over again. Whether you can or can't support the value-
adds is in essence unimportant, and I was only stating the above to make a 
point. The simple truth is that this is once again plainly and simply an 
economic matter. OpenSRS may or may not implement these value-adds. You may 
or may not be able to support them. But I don't care about either - I want to 
know what the long-term effects will be on ME if they're implemented. Will 
the SRS turn into a McDonalds franchise farce, or will it add value to MY 
business? THAT is the question we should all be asking ourselves.

Which I think is the point William is trying to make. I don't think William 
is necessarily going about proving his point the right way (sorry William, 
but you're pretty much ranting and repeating yourself at this stage, and it's 
not helping), but I agree with the sentiment. There's a risk that 
implementing this will turn the SRS into a farce.

A RISK. It's up to OpenSRS to evaluate that risk, and decide if it's worth 
taking. And given OpenSRS's past history, I would presume, nay hope, that 
they'll give a large consideration to what the RSP's think, and the quality 
of those RSP's, and not just how their revenues will be affected. The RSP's 
are their lifeblood, it just remains to be seen if they are willing to deal 
with script kiddies, incompetents and unethical operators, or continue 
dealing with reasonably intelligent, ethical ones. By creating barriers of 
entry if they do implement value-adds, it might be to everyone's benefit.

Again, it's the support, QoS, and availability of OpenSRS staff - including 
management - that defines OpenSRS as someone I want to do business with. If 
we start seeing mini-RCOM's on the list, I would have to rethink that 
position. This to me is the second most important factor.

adam

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