<rant>
I agree with your logic, but we're talking about a different kind of beast
here. I can think of two words to describe why NSI just can't get this to
work:
Stifled Bureaucracy
</rant>
Charles Daminato
TUCOWS Product Manager (ccTLDs)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Tony wrote:
> I can not believe that a class-action and a Federal investigation wasn't
> launched against this mess months ago. The dunning is now for a TWO YEAR
> renewal..$70.
> Companies that have committed far less serious and less organized cons have
> been shut down and crucified in far less time. Network Solutions is running
> a scam here. They know it. We know it. It's organized and it's deliberate.
> With their programming resources they could fix the issue in a week or less.
> The invoices are generated from a Unix print spool....run the invoices and
> the dunning notice jobs against their own whois database and DROP THE
> RECORDS which aren't theirs. When you call their customer service droids
> they'll swear that you owe the invoice, that's it valid and that there is no
> mistake. Then ask them to look up the domain with their own whois and you'll
> hear dead silence...then "Looks like you're right".
> They are in no hurry to do this because THEY KNOW THEY ARE MAKING MONEY
> MAILING THE BOGUS INVOICES and they know they are screwing the competing
> registrars.
> Someone high up in Tucows needs to start making calls. I'll be making some
> calls to some media friends tomorrow. This is the type of dirt journalists
> love.
>
> For those of you who are tired of Monster Borg Corporations doing as they
> please with impunity and are also tired of dealing with the extra customer
> inquiries and opening and processing bogus invoices send these crooks a
> message. These people could fix this in a week if they wanted to:
>
> Verisign
> 1350 Charleston Rd.
> Mountain View, CA 94043
> Phone: 650-961-7500
> Fax: 650-961-7300
>
> Stratton D. Sclavos CEO
> Dana L. Evan CFO
> Arnold "Arn" Schaeffer EVP-Engineering
>
> Network Solutions
> 505 Huntmar Park Dr.
> Herndon, VA 20170
> Phone: 703-742-0400
> Fax: 703-742-3386
>
> James P. Rutt CEO
> David H. Holtzman CTO
> Robert J. Korzeniewski CFO
>
> You can also send a complaint letter to James Rutt at
> http://www.planetfeedback.com
>
> --Tony Patti
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of genie
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 21:32
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Protest Network Solutions Hoarding Expired Domains
> >
> >
> > We have dozens of those NSI invoices- arriving DAILY!!!! Even for domains
> > that were transferred 2-3 months before domain expired - hence the usual
> > excuse of NSI that once a billing cycle begins they cannot stop it would
> > fail.
> >
> > We are also getting emails from clients who transferred domains to OpenSRS
> > through our site and now are receiving NSI invoices and Deactivation
> > Notices.
> >
> > I am in touch with an Attorney who is handling Class Action
> > Lawsuit against
> > NSI on behalf of clients who tried to register long expired
> > domains. Since
> > NSI does not issue refunds, this might be another Class Action Prospect.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Genie Livingstone
> > http://www.eyeondomain.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard B. Pyne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 4:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: Protest Network Solutions Hoarding Expired Domains
> >
> >
> > I recently spoke to a US Postal Inspector, and he believes based on
> > our discussion that there may be cause for filing criminal mail fraud
> > charges against NSI for their practice of continuing to send billings
> > for domains that have been transfered to other registrars.
> >
> > He is sending me the forms to start an investigation. Please hang on
> > to any improper invoices you get from NSI as they could be needed for
> > evidence to show that this is an on-going pattern of fraud.
> >
> > I'll post more information as I get it.
> >
> > --Richard
> >
> >
> > On 4 Dec 2000, at 17:26, Scott Allan wrote:
> >
> > > At 09:35 AM 12/1/00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >OK, here it goes, it took an extra month but we finally completed the
> > > >form
> > > >
> > > >This is a protest form to help our community voice opinions on NSI
> > > >policy regarding expired domains
> > > >
> > > >http://www.eyeondomain.com/nsiform.html
> > > >
> > > >your feedback/opinion will be sent to ICANN and US Dept of Commerce
> > > >overseeing Net Sol
> > > >
> > > >You are encouraged to copy and install this form on your site, the
> > > >script accepts and processes any IP
> > >
> > > This is great BTW...
> > >
> > > sA
> > > Scott Allan
> > > Director OpenSRS
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Richard B. Pyne, KB7RMU
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://pyne.kinfolk.org/rbp2
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
