This same problem persists here in asia as well, the worse part is, the
billing is done by their branch in asia, and on the RENEWAL &
DEACTIVATION notices they ask you to call a U.S. phone number if there
is something wrong with the bill. Holding on for a hour on the phone
isn't worth the effort from asia, so my clients just pay, then they come
knocking on my door for a explanation.
That's the reason, they're not stopping those invoices i think.
David James wrote:
>
> Make Noise!
>
> Sooner or later NS Stocks will start to fall. The shareholders will ask why,
> and someone will give them the answer. Do they know what really is going on?
> Do they really monitor the tech support calls? I find it hard to believe
> that anyone with sense would let a company be run like that.
>
> I've had it up to here *holding hand way above head* with NSI.
>
> This is a service industry. And those with the service will survive. And the
> others? well it's only a matter of time.
>
> P.S. Can you really eat on a holodeck? or is the food a hologram,...
> holofood?
>
> Dave James
> ThunderLine
>
> >
> > From: "Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2000/12/06 Wed AM 12:31:59 CST
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: Protest Network Solutions Hoarding Expired Domains
> >
> > I can not believe that a class-action and a Federal investigation wasn't
> > launched against this mess months ago. The dunning is now for a TWO YEAR
> > renewal..$70.
> > Companies that have committed far less serious and less organized cons
> have
> > been shut down and crucified in far less time. Network Solutions is
> running
> > a scam here. They know it. We know it. It's organized and it's deliberate.
> > With their programming resources they could fix the issue in a week or
> less.
> > The invoices are generated from a Unix print spool....run the invoices and
> > the dunning notice jobs against their own whois database and DROP THE
> > RECORDS which aren't theirs. When you call their customer service droids
> > they'll swear that you owe the invoice, that's it valid and that there is
> no
> > mistake. Then ask them to look up the domain with their own whois and
> you'll
> > hear dead silence...then "Looks like you're right".
> > They are in no hurry to do this because THEY KNOW THEY ARE MAKING MONEY
> > MAILING THE BOGUS INVOICES and they know they are screwing the competing
> > registrars.
> > Someone high up in Tucows needs to start making calls. I'll be making some
> > calls to some media friends tomorrow. This is the type of dirt journalists
> > love.
> >
> > For those of you who are tired of Monster Borg Corporations doing as they
> > please with impunity and are also tired of dealing with the extra customer
> > inquiries and opening and processing bogus invoices send these crooks a
> > message. These people could fix this in a week if they wanted to:
> >
> > Verisign
> > 1350 Charleston Rd.
> > Mountain View, CA 94043
> > Phone: 650-961-7500
> > Fax: 650-961-7300
> >
> > Stratton D. Sclavos CEO
> > Dana L. Evan CFO
> > Arnold "Arn" Schaeffer EVP-Engineering
> >
> > Network Solutions
> > 505 Huntmar Park Dr.
> > Herndon, VA 20170
> > Phone: 703-742-0400
> > Fax: 703-742-3386
> >
> > James P. Rutt CEO
> > David H. Holtzman CTO
> > Robert J. Korzeniewski CFO
> >
> > You can also send a complaint letter to James Rutt at
> > http://www.planetfeedback.com
> >
> > --Tony Patti
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of genie
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 21:32
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Protest Network Solutions Hoarding Expired Domains
> > >
> > >
> > > We have dozens of those NSI invoices- arriving DAILY!!!! Even for
> domains
> > > that were transferred 2-3 months before domain expired - hence the usual
> > > excuse of NSI that once a billing cycle begins they cannot stop it would
> > > fail.
> > >
> > > We are also getting emails from clients who transferred domains to
> OpenSRS
> > > through our site and now are receiving NSI invoices and Deactivation
> > > Notices.
> > >
> > > I am in touch with an Attorney who is handling Class Action
> > > Lawsuit against
> > > NSI on behalf of clients who tried to register long expired
> > > domains. Since
> > > NSI does not issue refunds, this might be another Class Action Prospect.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Genie Livingstone
> > > http://www.eyeondomain.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richard B. Pyne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 4:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Protest Network Solutions Hoarding Expired Domains
> > >
> > >
> > > I recently spoke to a US Postal Inspector, and he believes based on
> > > our discussion that there may be cause for filing criminal mail fraud
> > > charges against NSI for their practice of continuing to send billings
> > > for domains that have been transfered to other registrars.
> > >
> > > He is sending me the forms to start an investigation. Please hang on
> > > to any improper invoices you get from NSI as they could be needed for
> > > evidence to show that this is an on-going pattern of fraud.
> > >
> > > I'll post more information as I get it.
> > >
> > > --Richard
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4 Dec 2000, at 17:26, Scott Allan wrote:
> > >
> > > > At 09:35 AM 12/1/00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > >OK, here it goes, it took an extra month but we finally completed the
> > > > >form
> > > > >
> > > > >This is a protest form to help our community voice opinions on NSI
> > > > >policy regarding expired domains
> > > > >
> > > > >http://www.eyeondomain.com/nsiform.html
> > > > >
> > > > >your feedback/opinion will be sent to ICANN and US Dept of Commerce
> > > > >overseeing Net Sol
> > > > >
> > > > >You are encouraged to copy and install this form on your site, the
> > > > >script accepts and processes any IP
> > > >
> > > > This is great BTW...
> > > >
> > > > sA
> > > > Scott Allan
> > > > Director OpenSRS
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > Richard B. Pyne, KB7RMU
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://pyne.kinfolk.org/rbp2
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
