After thinking about your response for a few minutes, I have decided that if
I do register a domain that one of our clients is letting expire, I will
sent them an email telling them that I intend to register the domain name
for our own use if they do not renew it.

At worse, this might get them to renew the domain name if they think
somebody else wants it, at best they will tell us to go ahead, but either
way they can not later state they were unaware that we would register the
domain name if they did not.

I think that would handle the potential ethics problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: easygoing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:19 AM
To: Chuck Hatcher; easygoing; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Registering Expired OpenSRS Domain Names (was Re:Slowing ?)


As a reputable hosting company, it would be necessary to sell the domain
name back to the original owner at the normal registration fee if they
requested it in a reasonable amount of time.

So the question is what is reasonable.  I would believe three months at the
minimum would be reasonable, six months at most.

However, we do not register domain names in the name of our hosting company.
We use a holding company for that.  So the previous owner would not know we
registered it, but we would still give it back to them if they requested it
with in a six month period.

We believe in treating others as we would like to be treated so this is now
we handle all our business dealings.  Occasionally this costs us money as
not all our clients operate this way, but we can sleep with a clear
conscience each night.  They can worry about theirs.

We currently sent out three email notices for domain names, a 60 day notice,
a 30 day notice and a deactivated day notice.   We also send a final notice
30 days into the deactivation.

We initially sent out a letter as well, but did not receive enough response
from the letter to justify the time and expense, so we discontinued sending
out warning letters.

But I do understand the point you are making.  I agree that the record
created date should be the date you registered it if you registered it from
the common pool.  But if you registered it and transferred it during the
deactivated period, then it should show the original date.

I understand that in your case, you were not the original RSP.  This comment
is just in general, not applied to your specific case.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 8:55 AM
To: easygoing; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Registering Expired OpenSRS Domain Names (was Re:Slowing ?)


I worry about what the previous owner will think when they realize they lost
the domain name, and see who owns it now.  There is a potential conflict of
interest in that you may be tempted to not make a very great effort to get
them to renew if you are hoping to register the name when it expires.  If
you are willing to transfer it back to them if they eventually pay for the
renewal, no problem.  But how long do you wait before it is truly "yours"?

This is complicated by another OpenSRS glitch:

I registered a domain name that had been registered at OpenSRS, expired, and
was dropped.  It was not in my reseller account, so I don't see any conflict
of interest for me.  But the "Record Created" date in the whois is still the
original registration date, so I can't easily prove it ever expired (other
than by pointing to the expiration date which is not the same month and
day).  I think the Record Created should be the day I registered it, as it
would be if I had registered it at another registrar.  Anyone else have a
similar experience or concern?

----- Original Message -----
From: "easygoing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Alex Brecher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:14 AM
Subject: RE: Slowing ?


> Down to a crawl.  But what amazes me is how few are renewing the existing
> domain names.  Less than 10% so far.
>
> Some are good names, many are junk, in my opinion.
>
> Any rules about us picking up some of the good names if our client does
not
> renew them within the 40 day period?
>
> Not for resell, we don't believe in reselling domain names.  But there are
a
> few that would make a good site and we do buy domain names for future use
in
> site development.
>
> We currently have over 100 sites that we maintain, with another 80 being
> developed.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Brecher
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 7:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Slowing ?
>
>
> Hi, have all of you seen a slow down in domain name registrations over the
> last few days - or is it just me ?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Alex Brecher
>
> Visit us at http://www.Successfulhosting.com
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>



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