Loren,
As stated in other parts of this thread, the resellers associated with these
orders aren't really doing anything wrong. The customer is binding
themselves to the terms and conditions for the domain (whether or not they
have a legitimate claim), and the process put into place is meant to help
prevent fraudulent transfers from happening (hence your explicitly required
permission). If I went to Register.com and attempted the same transaction,
you'd simply deny the request. Anything that falls through this process
falls to compliance (internally, or with other registrars where applicable)
to fix the problem - and even then it's less than 1/10 of 1% of transfers
that result in problems :)
I think the system works, and shooting the messenger might be premature.
Charles Daminato
OpenSRS Product Manager
Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Loren Stocker
> Sent: August 14, 2001 12:53 AM
> To: Charles Daminato; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Transfer Fraud: Who are these losers!!!!
>
>
> Hi Chuck,
>
> I've had it with these fraudulent transfers -- I've just received two this
> week from Tucows resellers. I've recently brought a situation
> just like this
> to Tucows I was told by "compliance" that nothing could be done.
> I don't buy
> that!
>
> I feel it's time to expose either the Customers or Resellers who
> initiate such
> transfers. This is WIRE FRAUD and may, in fact, be the first step
> in domain
> theft (it's NEVER the junky domains that are slammed). I've
> posted this to our
> discussion list and invite our peers to share their views -- and
> for the two
> Resellers in question to bring us the criminals!
>
> Please don't go into the fact that these domains will not be
> transfered if I
> simply don't acknowledge the request -- I WON'T; I KNOW THAT! My
> point is that
> without punitive action these Slim Bags will continue this practice.
>
> If Team Burlee or Team Advantage are reputable resellers, let
> them expose the
> customers who initiated these frauds. They have their credit
> cards. They who
> they are. Short of that, I must assume that this is Reseller slamming and
> Tucows should sanction these Resellers. Either way, let's start a HALL OF
> SHAME for repeat offenders! Wire Fraud is not a private affair.
>
> Best, Loren
>
> The two transfer requests follow -- one sent by "Loren Stocker." Right!
>
> THURSDAY'S FRAUD (This domain was registered the day before the request --
> sore loser?)
>
> A request has been received to transfer the domain engrs.com
> to Burlee Networks, an authorized reseller of the registrar Tucows. This
> request
> was entered at Thu Aug 9 12:55:05 2001
> by Loren Stocker. Note that your nameservers will not change as a direct
> result
> of this transfer.
>
> This acknowledgement of transfer will be processed by Tucows Inc, an
> ICANN accredited registrar on behalf of Burlee Networks. If
> this is a valid request and you wish to approve this transfer, please
> visit the following url and follow the instructions:
>
> https://rr-n1-tor.opensrs.net/transfers/index.cgi?rid=
>
> You will need to enter the following information to complete the
> transfer:
> Domain Name: engrs.com
> Password:
>
> If you do not wish to approve this transfer, you may simply ignore this
> message and the request will be cancelled, or you can use the Domain
> Name and Password above to cancel the transfer.
>
> Accepting this transfer will change the registrar of record for your
> domain from its current registrar, to Tucows/OpenSRS; it may also
> change some of the contact information. If you are receiving this
> email, you should have initiated, or at least been aware of this
> request already. If this is the first time that you've heard of this,
> do not accept the transfer until you are satisfied that the request is
> legitimate.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Team Burlee Networks and Team Tucows
>
> MONDAY'S FRAUD (I've had two other attempts on this domain!)
>
> A request has been received to transfer the domain willcall.com
> to Advantage Management & Consulting, an authorized reseller of
> the registrar
> Tucows. This request was entered at Mon Aug 13 14:53:06 2001
> by Danny Allen. Note that your nameservers will not change as a
> direct result
> of
> this transfer.
>
> This acknowledgement of transfer will be processed by Tucows Inc, an
> ICANN accredited registrar on behalf of Advantage Management &
> Consulting. If
> this is a valid request and you wish to approve this transfer, please
> visit the following url and follow the instructions:
>
> https://rr-n1-tor.opensrs.net/transfers/index.cgi?rid
>
> You will need to enter the following information to complete the
> transfer:
> Domain Name: willcall.com
> Password:
>
> If you do not wish to approve this transfer, you may simply ignore this
> message and the request will be cancelled, or you can use the Domain
> Name and Password above to cancel the transfer.
>
> Accepting this transfer will change the registrar of record for your
> domain from its current registrar, to Tucows/OpenSRS; it may also
> change some of the contact information. If you are receiving this
> email, you should have initiated, or at least been aware of this
> request already. If this is the first time that you've heard of this,
> do not accept the transfer until you are satisfied that the request is
> legitimate.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Team Advantage Management & Consulting and Team Tucows
>
>
