Chuck
I am actually referring to the Afilias pool and assuming that Tucows has
already run the de-duplication.

Based on your example below, if you only have sufficient funds to cover 125
submissions (even if 175 pass the Tucows de-duplication), than Tucows will
submit 125 pre-registrations to Afilias on your behalf.  The best advice I
can provide to you and the list then is to play things on the safe side and
submit funds to cover ALL pre-reg regardless of your success rate - in the
example below ensure that you can cover all 250 pre-registrations.  If some
of the names are unsuccessful, your money will be on hold for less than one
week (based on Sept 17 deposit and Sept 22 WHOIS publish for first queue)

Rick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:26 AM
> To: Rick Baraniuk; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: .INFO timeline questions / OpenSRS Live Reseller Update -
> 09/11/01
>
>
> Thanks for the answers, Rick.
>
> To clarify one point, you say "Only the pre-regs covered by your account
> balance are entered into the pool.", and then say if we "have an idea of
> what portion" ... "will be eliminated in the de-duplication"
> ..."can take a
> chance and put less money in".
>
> By "the pool", do you mean the pre-de-duplication pool of all
> pre-regs?  If
> so, it seems like even if we expect 50% loss during
> de-duplication, and fund
> our accounts accordingly, we would automatically lose out on
> having the rest
> of our pre-reg's submitted for de-duplication.
>
> It seems like all my pre-reg's should be eligible for the de-duplication
> process, until the number of my pre-reg's that survive de-duplication
> exhausts my available funds, and then no more of my pre-reg's would be
> considered.
>
> I want to be absolutely clear, so let me give an example.  Let's say my
> account is at $2500, and I have 250 regular pre-reg's ordered, for a
> potential amount due (to be placed on hold) of $5000.  Let's say I am
> confident less than half of those pre-regs will survive
> de-duplication among
> other RSP's, and I believe the $2500 will more than cover any of
> my pre-regs
> that could ultimately be submitted to Afilias.  My main question is: will
> all 250 of my pre-reg's have a shot at the de-duplication
> process, assuming
> no more than 125 of them are ultimately selected for submission?
>
> I appreciate your recommendation to ensure enough funds for all pre-reg's,
> but what I want to do is to maximize the number of possible pre-reg's for
> whatever funds I do decide to commit, without having half of them
> automatically discarded before the first selection occurs.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Baraniuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Chuck Hatcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:45 AM
> Subject: RE: .INFO timeline questions / OpenSRS Live Reseller Update -
> 09/11/01
>
>
> > Chuck
> > You are correct. The key message to take from the chart is this:
> resellers
> > may submit their pre-registrations up until September 17 at 6:00pm EST.
> If
> > they are submitted before this time, then Tucows will submit
> them into the
> > first Afilias queue.  Anything received after 6:01pm on the 17th will be
> > submitted to the second Afilias queue.  Again, if resellers
> submit to the
> > second queue prior to 6:00pm on Sept 24 then they will be
> processed in the
> > second queue.  Anything submitted after 6:00pm will not be accepted -
> > users/resellers will have to wait until October 1 to register in
> real-time.
> >
> > With regards to the de-duplication proceedures, when to get an accurate
> > balance owing, etc.  We have left ourselves with a buffer zone to do all
> of
> > these processes.  Without cutting it too close to the wire,
> your best bet
> is
> > to ensure you have the necessary funds in your account before day end of
> > business (EST) September 17.
> >
> > Only the pre-regs covered by your account balance are entered into the
> pool.
> > If you are doing some forecasting and have an idea of what
> portion of your
> > names have already been registered in Sunrise, or what will be
> eliminated
> in
> > the de-duplication that is run, then you can take a chance and put less
> > money in your account.  However if your estimates are incorrect than you
> run
> > the risk of not even having them submitted.
> >
> > I would highly reccommend that you ensure sufficient funds for ALL
> > pre-registrations.  The upside is that we will be emailing all
> resellers a
> > list of successful and unsuccesful domains that were submitted in
> Landrush.
> > This will happen shortly after September 22 when the WHOIS is officially
> > published.  This way your money isn't on hold for any period of
> significant
> > length.
> >
> > If you require further clarification on this - dont hesitate to ask.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chuck Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:59 AM
> > > To: Rick Baraniuk; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: .INFO timeline questions / OpenSRS Live Reseller Update -
> > > 09/11/01
> > >
> > >
> > > The .info timeline shows Sept 14 and Sept 17 as the dates for Tucows
> > > submissions to Afilias.
> > >
> > > Does this mean pre-reg's can continue to be submitted until then?  And
> if
> > > so, will the random selection of which RSP's pre-reg for a
> > > particular domain
> > > name is to be submitted not occur until then?  (And we won't have any
> > > feedback about how much $$ is placed on hold until that
> time.)  Or will
> > > already existing pre-regs begin to be processed before then?
> > >
> > > It isn't clear to me what will happen if my account balance doesn't
> cover
> > > the total of all my pre-regs, but would cover the total of my
> > > pre-regs after
> > > RSP selection deletes half of them.  In other words, is money put on
> hold
> > > name by name as each random RSP selection (by Tucows) occurs, or are
> only
> > > the pre-regs that are covered by my account balance entered into
> > > the random
> > > RSP selection?
> > >
> > >
>

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