Too many card issuers take the position that the charge can be disputed
anytime during the period charged and that the only acceptable proof is a
signed copy of the charge slip.

Authorize.net would not fight the issue so we switched to Cybercash.  Now
that Verisign owns Cybercash I don't know if they will fight the issue
either.

I agree that the signed chargeback statement should be proof that the domain
was not purchased by the cardholder and should belong to the reseller.  But
OpenSRS does not agree and their agreement is the only one that matters.  So
the only thing you can do is accept the fact that you will lose some money
due to bad credit cards and be carefull in accepting registrations for
longer than one year.  Maybe call and verify the charge but am not sure that
will help.

What it comes down to is that you must get a signed authorization from the
client if you wish to fight charge backs or place yourself in a position to
reposses the service if there is a chargeback.  It's hard to reposses
hosting service after the period is past.

In the case of the hosting deadbeat,  we changed the password to the site
and placed a message on the site that the site had been obtained through
fraudlent means since the credit card holder whose credit card had been used
to pay for the service stated he never authorized the charge.  We were very
careful to only state the facts on this page, no name calling or disputing
the card holder's statement, we just stated the webmaster used fraud to
obtain the site hosting.

This stayed on the site for about three days before the domain owner changed
the nameservers to remove us from the domain.  We have found this very
effective in getting our nameservers removed from a domain when there was a
payment issue.  Through normally we just place an index.page that states
please contact billing to resolve outstanding payment issues concerning this
site.  Deadbeats do not like their activies advertised to the world.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: What to do if credit card fails - domain already registered...


> > And unfortunately, the biggest lie is that the service was not provided
> > which is why we do not accept one year hosting agreements without a
> > faxed signed authorization.
>
> If the customer gets a chargeback claiming that service was not provided,
> at that point don't you have written evidence that the customer has not
> paid for the domain and therefore doesn't own it?  So then you should be
> able to get it transferred to yourself?  This seems like it *should* be
> much different legally from a case where you never receive payment; in
> the latter case you don't have proof that the customer didn't pay for it.
>
> Not much consolation after 11 months of a 12-month term have passed.
>
>
>


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