BUT, NIS (sic) MUST send something to the admin contact, and if the admin contact doesn't ACK that *explicitly*, then there's a default NACK policy....
The LOSING registrar check just a safety...the GAINING registrar MUST have explicit approval from the admin contact. Thanks, Ken > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Allen > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:59 PM > To: erol M > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Yo TUCOWS what's up with this? > > > Hi Ya' > > Well, that's what I mean. If I hated someone enough, when I > know they are > leaving, say on vacation... I could request their domain to be > transferred > away from SRS and cause them some grief. > > i,e,: > > I go to NIS > > Say, "Hay, transfer my domain from open SRS to you." > > Pay them $35 bucks or what ever for a year... > > The transfer takes place because he didn't cancel it... Why? He wasn't > checking e-mail because he put all his misery behind him for a week and > tools around the beach with some young sexy blond in Cancun, Mexico. > > > Next thing you know, the guy I hate so much comes home as much as he hates > to and goes to make a DNS change and much to his surprise, he > finds out his > account at SRS doesn't work anymore.. He asks around, looks at a > who-is and > sees, "NIS" He panics! > > He calls either SRS or NIS and finds out what happens.... > > What does he do next? I would say fight with NIS a while to send it back, > but he eventually gives up and stays their.... > > Meanwhile, back at the Bat cave... The prick that done it is laughing > hysterically because he has always wanted to get this guy back > for a old gag > he pulled back in the 60's > > Like I said, it's kind of far fetched and may not happen often, but if it > did, it would be simple to do! > > Maybe I should give this up and write books... > > Mike Allen, 4CheapDomains.Net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.4CheapDomains.Net > (812) 275-8425 - Office > (815) 364-1278 - Fax > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "erol M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mike Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:39 PM > Subject: Re: Yo TUCOWS what's up with this? > > > > The ack-ing after five days only happens for domains that are > transferred > > away from OpenSRS and not domains that are coming to OpenSRS.. If the > owner > > doesnt approve these then they will not happen ( but were all > still lucky > > that you dont hate anyone that much ;) > > > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Mike Allen wrote: > > > > > Wow Chuck... > > > > > > > > > You mean if the request isn't denied, after the 5th day it is > > > automatically approved!! I didn't know that, thanks for telling me... > My > > > god, that means if I knew when someone was going on vacation > I could but > a > > > request in for a transfer, and when the poor sap gets back then his > domain > > > has been transferred without his knowledge, and that would give me the > > > opportunity to speak to the new registrar or in some form and try to > steal > > > the site... If nothing else, if I hated the owner I could spend a > couple > > > dollars and transfer the site to Nis so that he would have > the grief of > > > trying to get it re-transferred and or be stuck with their > high fees... > I > > > know this scenario is pretty far fetched, but I for one would want my > > > domains to NOT automatically transfer like that. I guess everyone has > their > > > own opinions and or feelings on the subject... I know if I > hated someone > bad > > > enough, it would be worth the $35 dollars to transfer it to > NIS to give > them > > > some grief. (Thank GOD I don't hate anyone that bad!) > > > > > > Mike Allen, 4CheapDomains.Net > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.4CheapDomains.Net > > > (812) 275-8425 - Office > > > (815) 364-1278 - Fax > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Spy OpenSRS Mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:39 PM > > > Subject: Re: Yo TUCOWS what's up with this? > > > > > > > > > > Actually, re-reading through below I know the issue. The transfer > request > > > > was placed on the 13th at 2pm. He emails you on the 19th at almost > 1pm - > > > > that's more than 5 days after the transfer request got to us, which > means > > > > it went away before he tried. Hence the issue. > > > > > > > > Sorry Lars :) > > > > > > > > Charles Daminato > > > > TUCOWS Product Manager > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Spy OpenSRS Mail wrote: > > > > > > > > > A customer unknowingly began a transfer from a competitor > solicitation. > > > > > Then after calling us we informed him to NOT confirm/authorize the > > > transfer. > > > > > He declined it. But TUCOWS still let it go. Whoopsy. > > > > > > > > > > So five minutes ago the reseller for Enom calls us saying the > customer > > > > > declined the transfer and TUCOWS still sent it over to them. > > > > > > > > > > The Enom reseller says they can't send it back. That TUCOWS has to > > > generate > > > > > a request to send it back. > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile the customer did win out here. They refunded > the customers > 2 > > > year > > > > > renewal but agreed to leave the 2 years on the domain. I suppose > when > > > we > > > > > get it back with a year added to it the customer will > have paid one > year > > > > > with us and benefited with three. > > > > > > > > > > But what would you have us do to get it back? Generate a transfer > > > request? > > > > > In the end, I'd like to know has anyone had a similar situation? > And > > > what > > > > > our friends at TUCOWS can do to stop allowing > unauthorized transfers > to > > > > > complete. If this is an anomaly, let me know. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Lars Hindsley > > > > > SpyProductions > > > > > > > > > > Here is the string of correspondence with our customer. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Jim Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:51 PM > > > > > To: OpenSRS Transfers; Lars Hindsley > > > > > Subject: Re: Transfer Request away has been received for > the domain > > > > > laurelhollow.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please reverse the request! > > > > > > > > > > I tried to deny it. and the system wont let me. > > > > > > > > > > Please help keep the domain with SPY > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Jim Hughes > > > > > > > > > > OpenSRS Transfers wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > A request has been received to transfer the domain > laurelhollow.org > > > > > > away from the Registrar Tucows. This request was entered at > > > 13-Dec-2001 > > > > > 14:14:26 > > > > > > by eNom, Inc. > > > > > > > > > > > > If this is a valid request and you wish to approve this > transfer, > > > > > > please visit the following url and follow the instructions: > > > > > > https://rr-n1-tor.opensrs.net/transfers/index.cgi?away=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > You will need to enter the following information to complete the > > > > > > transfer: > > > > > > > > > > > > Domain Name: laurelhollow.org > > > > > > Password: uaGz3zWWPj > > > > > > > > > > > > If you do not wish to approve this transfer, you must visit the > URL > > > > > > above, and use the Domain Name and Password shown to Decline it. > > > > > > Accepting this transfer will change the registrar of record for > your > > > > > > domain from Tucows, to eNom, Inc..If you are receiving this > > > > > > email, you should have initiated, or at least been aware of this > > > > > > request already. If this is the first time that you've heard of > this, > > > > > > do not accept the transfer until you are satisfied that the > request is > > > > > > legitimate. > > > > > > > > > > > > The transfer request will be automatically completed within 5 > > > > > > calendar days if you don't either accept or decline the request. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Team SpyProductions and Team Tucows > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > Agnostic apathetic isolationist. > > I don't know. I don't care. Go away. > > > > /Em > > >
