Nobodys yelling at nobody... I was just explaining the way I perceived it and Ken cleared it up for me. All is well and good on the home front. ;)
Mike Allen, 4CheapDomains.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.4CheapDomains.Net (812) 275-8425 - Office (815) 364-1278 - Fax ----- Original Message ----- From: "WebWiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mike Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Yo TUCOWS what's up with this? > Ya'll don't flame OpenSRS for this...it's *NOT* their > policy, it's ICANN's. The fact that Network Solutions > and some others have chosen to ignore it is another issue. > > The ICANN regulations say that it is the responsibility > of the *GAINING* registrar to confirm the identity of the > requestor and to obtain approval from the registrant. The > *LOSING* registrar (OpenSRS in these examples), cannot > block the transaction without a valid reason (e.g., domain > is in dispute, moneys are owed, etc). Barring a valid > reason, the losing registrar MUST auto-ack. > > It's what we've been yelling at Network Solutions about > for months now, so don't bip on OpenSRS for doing the > right thing! > > Remember: *GAINING* registrar must verify that it's OK > to transfer the domain. *LOSING* registrar has to assume > that the gaining registrar has done so. > > Regards, > Eric Longman > Atl-Connect Internet Services > > +-------------------------------------------------------+ > | Atl-Connect Internet Services http://www.atlcon.net | > | 3600 Dallas Hwy Ste 230-288 770 590-0888 | > | Marietta, GA 30064-1685 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > +-------------------------------------------------------+ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: Yo TUCOWS what's up with this? > > > Wow Chuck... > > > You mean if the request isn't denied, after the 5th day it is > automatically approved!! I didn't know that, thanks for telling me... My > god, that means if I knew when someone was going on vacation I could but a > request in for a transfer, and when the poor sap gets back then his domain > has been transferred without his knowledge, and that would give me the > opportunity to speak to the new registrar or in some form and try to steal > the site... If nothing else, if I hated the owner I could spend a couple > dollars and transfer the site to Nis so that he would have the grief of > trying to get it re-transferred and or be stuck with their high fees... I > know this scenario is pretty far fetched, but I for one would want my > domains to NOT automatically transfer like that. I guess everyone has their > own opinions and or feelings on the subject... I know if I hated someone bad > enough, it would be worth the $35 dollars to transfer it to NIS to give them > some grief. (Thank GOD I don't hate anyone that bad!) > > Mike Allen, 4CheapDomains.Net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.4CheapDomains.Net > (812) 275-8425 - Office > (815) 364-1278 - Fax > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Spy OpenSRS Mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:39 PM > Subject: Re: Yo TUCOWS what's up with this? > > > > Actually, re-reading through below I know the issue. The transfer request > > was placed on the 13th at 2pm. He emails you on the 19th at almost 1pm - > > that's more than 5 days after the transfer request got to us, which means > > it went away before he tried. Hence the issue. > > > > Sorry Lars :) > > > > Charles Daminato > > TUCOWS Product Manager > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Spy OpenSRS Mail wrote: > > > > > A customer unknowingly began a transfer from a competitor solicitation. > > > Then after calling us we informed him to NOT confirm/authorize the > transfer. > > > He declined it. But TUCOWS still let it go. Whoopsy. > > > > > > So five minutes ago the reseller for Enom calls us saying the customer > > > declined the transfer and TUCOWS still sent it over to them. > > > > > > The Enom reseller says they can't send it back. That TUCOWS has to > generate > > > a request to send it back. > > > > > > Meanwhile the customer did win out here. They refunded the customers 2 > year > > > renewal but agreed to leave the 2 years on the domain. I suppose when > we > > > get it back with a year added to it the customer will have paid one year > > > with us and benefited with three. > > > > > > But what would you have us do to get it back? Generate a transfer > request? > > > In the end, I'd like to know has anyone had a similar situation? And > what > > > our friends at TUCOWS can do to stop allowing unauthorized transfers to > > > complete. If this is an anomaly, let me know. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Lars Hindsley > > > SpyProductions > > > > > > Here is the string of correspondence with our customer. :) > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jim Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:51 PM > > > To: OpenSRS Transfers; Lars Hindsley > > > Subject: Re: Transfer Request away has been received for the domain > > > laurelhollow.org > > > > > > > > > Please reverse the request! > > > > > > I tried to deny it. and the system wont let me. > > > > > > Please help keep the domain with SPY > > > > > > Thanks, Jim Hughes > > > > > > OpenSRS Transfers wrote: > > > > > > > A request has been received to transfer the domain laurelhollow.org > > > > away from the Registrar Tucows. This request was entered at > 13-Dec-2001 > > > 14:14:26 > > > > by eNom, Inc. > > > > > > > > If this is a valid request and you wish to approve this transfer, > > > > please visit the following url and follow the instructions: > > > > https://rr-n1-tor.opensrs.net/transfers/index.cgi?away=1 > > > > > > > > You will need to enter the following information to complete the > > > > transfer: > > > > > > > > Domain Name: laurelhollow.org > > > > Password: uaGz3zWWPj > > > > > > > > If you do not wish to approve this transfer, you must visit the URL > > > > above, and use the Domain Name and Password shown to Decline it. > > > > Accepting this transfer will change the registrar of record for your > > > > domain from Tucows, to eNom, Inc..If you are receiving this > > > > email, you should have initiated, or at least been aware of this > > > > request already. If this is the first time that you've heard of this, > > > > do not accept the transfer until you are satisfied that the request is > > > > legitimate. > > > > > > > > The transfer request will be automatically completed within 5 > > > > calendar days if you don't either accept or decline the request. > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > Team SpyProductions and Team Tucows > > > > > > > >
