The other alternative of course is to pre-stuff all passwords created by
the users with something you control, and thus make sure that the
customer HAS to come to YOUR manage.cgi (which also prestuffs
passwords), and then log all manage.cgi changes..

Thus capturing new passwords, etc.


I think its in the RSP's right to do this...of course, I've been wrong
before, actually, Chuck can say...prolly more than once.. :)

J

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Who owns tradingsportscards.com?

Oh yes, it is actually easy to figure out:
I tracked my second 10 year from this AM - customer's card
comes from Michigan, phone number questionable - still busy - we
are trying to reach them - but always busy - but our credit card
processor also sends IP address - which traces back to philippines

I think they figure this:
grab a stolen card, register the domain, as soon as it is registered
go manage it and change owner info on it to themselves (they originally
place the credit card holder as domain owner so everything would
look kosher)
Once they appear as domain owner on whois - it is quite difficult
to wrestle that domain away and most registrars simply write it off

We are not a big registrar so any multi year registrations are looked
at and sceened for security - since we already lost few thusand dollars
on fraud

cheers
Genie


> ** Original Subject: RE: Who owns tradingsportscards.com?
> ** Original Sender: Robert Kidd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ** Original Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 08:12:59 -0800

> ** Original Message follows... 

>
> Hi Genie,
> 
> Forgive me for being naive or perhaps a little thick but why would
someone 
> use someone else's credit card to register their web site for ten
years. 
> Surely they know they would get caught and cannot use the web site. I
can 
> see someone buying a tangible item that thye can caryy away and use at

> their leisure but web site is a public thing. How can they get a way
with 
> it or even believe they could? Isn't it like buying insurance under
false 
> pretenses: when it comes time to use it the insurance policy is found
to be 
> invalid.
> 
> I just don't understand why and how so many (9/10!) of these could
happen. 
> Perhaps I am missing something.
> 
> Curious Bob
> 
> At 06:36 AM 1/4/02 -0800, you wrote:
> >>We just had two 10 year registrations this morning.
> >>I already called the Canadian customer and he confirmed that
> >>he did not attempt any domain registrations.
> >>
> >>- out of ten 10 year registrations only one would prove to
> >>be legit -
> 


>** --------- End Original Message ----------- **

> 

cheers
Genie Livingstone
Magi Inc
511 G 5th Street
San Fernando, CA 91340
818 365 0664
http://www.buildyoursiteonline.com
http://www.eyeondomain.com
http://www.magiinc.com

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