We just had two 10 year registrations this morning.
Credit card fraud is the only reason why we cannot
process domains real time but pend them and verify -
whenever we see a 6 plus year registration, we call
the billing contact and verify with them.  I already
called the Canadian customer and he confirmed that
he did not attempt any domain registrations.

We use a credit card processor who emails us every
transaction report - success or denied and includes
denied resons, so it is easy to spot as most
of the time we would see 2 or 3 stolen card emails
before a success email comes in for that same domain.

Our card processor also has a fraud track, so when
we discover a stolen card, we enter that number in
a fraud database via online interface which assures
the hacker could not use that card on our site - or
any other sites who use our cc processor again.

It is too early to telephone in on our second 10 year registration
customer - the chances are that is a fraud as well
- out of ten 10 year registrations only one would prove to
be legit -

cheers
Genie
eyeondomain.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: Who owns tradingsportscards.com?


> At 02:59 PM 1/2/02 -0800, you wrote:
>
> > > > I have another question, though: at what point do I report the CC#
to
> > visa?
> > > > Or contact the ISP with the IP/timestamp that I have logged? Any
> > suggestions?
> > > > Or do I just walk from it? We've actually been doing this for well
over a
> > > > year and never once had a chargeback or fraudulent attempt. I guess
> > that's
> > > > been lucky.
> > >
> > > My suggestion would be to contact Visa now and mention that you had a
> > > suspicious attempt to use CC# x.  Give them all the info you have on
the
> > > guy and say "I don't need to know anything else, just that you will
> > > contact the rightful cardholder and let them know about this issue."
> >
> >The CC companies don't care what the merchants have to say... we have
> >tried reporting CC fraud to them (as a merchant).  They said the
> >cardholder must report the fraudulent usage of their card (usually after
> >the fact).  I remember one time when the thief had the complete name,
> >address and telephone of the actual cardholder.  We called the card
holder
> >to confirm and discovered it was fraud.  We contacted Visa and they
stated
> >the card holder must file the report.  We then told the cardholder that
it
> >might be wise to contact the issuing bank and discuss the problem...
>
> Our experience is that in cases where the cardholder is a party (i.e. we
> confirmed with the cardholder that it is fraud) that the issuing bank will
> want the cardholder to report it.  I don't know why, exactly, but that has
> been our experience -- so we tell the cardholder they need to do so for
> their own protection.
>
> In contrast, however, we have had situations where a domestic card (i.e.
> the cardholder lived in Ohio) was submitted to pay for an order, but the
> originating IP address was located in Romania.  In those cases, we contact
> our Merchant Bank and got the fax or telephone number of the issuing
> bank.  We then call, or fax, them to report that the card may have been
> compromised.
>
> Within the last week we had almost a carbon copy of the above situation
and
> contacted MBNA.  They told us that they were putting a security hold on
the
> account and would telephone the customer.  They get to be a hero with
their
> customer.
>
> I think it behooves all of us to do something in an effort to combat
credit
> card fraud.  Who knows, the recent report to MBNA may have save you or
> another "card not present" merchant from a loss and a charge back.
>
> FWIW
>
>
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