Exactly my point. There must be a way to protect people from lies(misleading complaints), and other things.
Richard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ezgoing8" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "opensrs discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:13 PM Subject: Re: Spamming > spam is wrong. > > But the net vigilante approach of fighting it is just as wrong. In fact it > is worse than spam as it deliberately sets out to disable the email service > for at least 255 other users on the server that did not spam. > > Go after the spammer, yes. but don't use the terrorist mindset of injuring > innocent webmasters to make the point that spam is wrong. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kris Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "POWERHOUSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Swerve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "opensrs discuss" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: Spamming > > > > POWERHOUSE wrote: > > > > > > No, I do agree, that Fax blasting is WRONG. That does cost people money. > > > Email Does Not. Just like if your are watching > > > TV and you see an ad. You have a choice to watch it or NOT. In your > Snail > > > Mail. You can through the letter away or NOT. > > > > Mr Powerhouse: > > > > This argument is weak. Very weak. In fact, it is based on a fallacy. > > e-mail does cost people money. I know that as an ISP, we pay traffic > > charges, and CPU time on our mailserver is not free either. As a home > > user, I pay connect-time charges. What does the spammer pay? Relatively > > little in comparison. It is truly the recipient that ends up swallowing > > the costs. > > > > This is opposite other mediums: > > Fax: you will likely get it long distance, costing you pennies (especially > > if you have a decent fax machine) and costing them about 40 cents per > > page. > > > > Mail: you pay nothing to recieve it, the sender pays about 40 cents per > > envelope to send it (plus medium costs) > > > > TV: you pay relatively little for the cable service when you compare to > > the thousands or millions of dollars spent to run a 30 second ad. > > > > > I just don't think people should be able to cry spam, when 75% of the > time, > > > they have signed up for something somewhere and > > > they just forget about it. I am a webhost. Not a reseller either. I do > not > > > shut down my clients for spam, unless the person who sent > > > it cannot verify that the person in some way either emailed them FIRST, > or > > > > You know how easy it is to manufacture an e-mail message? There's a > > reason that they're not quite as rock solid as a handwritten letter in > > court. > > > > > Then it's NOT spam. X being critical factors. Then when people ask to be > > > removed, and they are NOT removed, they should get a fine > > > or something like that, to keep the "balance" on the internet. I just > don't > > > think that their should be 1000 different laws as to what constitutes > > > Spam. If that is the case, and say you have a customer, who falls under > the > > > > Spam is the common term for UCE or Unsolicited Commercial E-mail. > > Dissecting this term, we find that the message must meet three > > qualifications: 1, Unsolicited -- user did not request this information; > > 2, Commercial -- someone somewhere is going to profit from this; 3, e-mail > > -- must come by e-mail. > > > > If it fits those three categories, it is spam. > > > > > Just because they are you customer, don't mean you have the right to > send > > > them email, and that is a what I'm talking about. Their > > > > That is debatable. A company-client relationship changes it from > > unsolicited to solicited. > > > > > everyones got them and they all stink. I know mine does to a lot of > people, > > > but I think that is the way it should be. Filters work, but they could > also > > > filter out GOOD email. Like maybe a domain Expiration warning. Things > like > > > that. > > > > > > anyways, Not everyone agrees with what I think, and I don't agree with > what > > > everyone thinks. Life goes on.... > > > > Spam is wrong. I'm sure it could be arranged to have all the list members > > start forwarding their spam to you, if you want proof... > > > > -kb > > -- > > Kris Benson > > ABC Communications > > +1 (250)612-5270 x204 > > +1 (888)235-1174 x204 > > > >
