Though this is a lively and interesting debate, it's long since left the realm of domain registrations and moved on to somewhere else.
Thank you for your consideration. -t > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ezgoing8 > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:14 PM > To: opensrs discuss > Subject: Re: Spamming > > > spam is wrong. > > But the net vigilante approach of fighting it is just as > wrong. In fact it is worse than spam as it deliberately sets > out to disable the email service for at least 255 other users > on the server that did not spam. > > Go after the spammer, yes. but don't use the terrorist > mindset of injuring innocent webmasters to make the point > that spam is wrong. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kris Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "POWERHOUSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Swerve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "opensrs discuss" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: Spamming > > > > POWERHOUSE wrote: > > > > > > No, I do agree, that Fax blasting is WRONG. That does cost people > > > money. Email Does Not. Just like if your are watching TV > and you see > > > an ad. You have a choice to watch it or NOT. In your > Snail > > > Mail. You can through the letter away or NOT. > > > > Mr Powerhouse: > > > > This argument is weak. Very weak. In fact, it is based on > a fallacy. > > e-mail does cost people money. I know that as an ISP, we > pay traffic > > charges, and CPU time on our mailserver is not free either. > As a home > > user, I pay connect-time charges. What does the spammer pay? > > Relatively little in comparison. It is truly the recipient > that ends > > up swallowing the costs. > > > > This is opposite other mediums: > > Fax: you will likely get it long distance, costing you pennies > > (especially if you have a decent fax machine) and costing > them about > > 40 cents per page. > > > > Mail: you pay nothing to recieve it, the sender pays about 40 cents > > per envelope to send it (plus medium costs) > > > > TV: you pay relatively little for the cable service when > you compare > > to the thousands or millions of dollars spent to run a 30 second ad. > > > > > I just don't think people should be able to cry spam, when 75% of > > > the > time, > > > they have signed up for something somewhere and > > > they just forget about it. I am a webhost. Not a reseller > either. I > > > do > not > > > shut down my clients for spam, unless the person who sent > it cannot > > > verify that the person in some way either emailed them FIRST, > or > > > > You know how easy it is to manufacture an e-mail message? > There's a > > reason that they're not quite as rock solid as a > handwritten letter in > > court. > > > > > Then it's NOT spam. X being critical factors. Then when > people ask > > > to be removed, and they are NOT removed, they should get > a fine or > > > something like that, to keep the "balance" on the internet. I just > don't > > > think that their should be 1000 different laws as to what > > > constitutes Spam. If that is the case, and say you have a > customer, > > > who falls under > the > > > > Spam is the common term for UCE or Unsolicited Commercial E-mail. > > Dissecting this term, we find that the message must meet three > > qualifications: 1, Unsolicited -- user did not request this > > information; 2, Commercial -- someone somewhere is going to profit > > from this; 3, e-mail > > -- must come by e-mail. > > > > If it fits those three categories, it is spam. > > > > > Just because they are you customer, don't mean you have > the right to > send > > > them email, and that is a what I'm talking about. Their > > > > That is debatable. A company-client relationship changes it from > > unsolicited to solicited. > > > > > everyones got them and they all stink. I know mine does > to a lot of > people, > > > but I think that is the way it should be. Filters work, but they > > > could > also > > > filter out GOOD email. Like maybe a domain Expiration warning. > > > Things > like > > > that. > > > > > > anyways, Not everyone agrees with what I think, and I don't agree > > > with > what > > > everyone thinks. Life goes on.... > > > > Spam is wrong. I'm sure it could be arranged to have all the list > > members start forwarding their spam to you, if you want proof... > > > > -kb > > -- > > Kris Benson > > ABC Communications > > +1 (250)612-5270 x204 > > +1 (888)235-1174 x204 > > >
