If any of you noticed I put SCAM in "". We have been using the term "scam"
for any letter/email that misleads an end user into switching service.
Personally I don't think sending this specific email is a "scam," but I
would like to rub a few magnets over the senders hard drive ;-) .

Best Regards,

Alex Brecher

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----- Original Message -----
From: "SpyProductions - Lars Hindsley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Alex Brecher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:08 PM
Subject: RE: NEW Domain Scam - lets analyze...


> I'm known for my straight talk, peppered with language but I'll try to say
> this nicely.
>
> Scam is a hard word indeed and without spin doctoring here is the point of
> view of just about all Tucows RSP's if I may be so  bold as to speak on
> everyone's part:
>
> -shades of scam as where is the means of domain management? Does customer
> choose id and password?  Does the vendor create it?
> -renew is a common term that vendors use FOR THEIR OWN CUSTOMERS.
> -therefore the site is misleading on the surface, they are not just
> renewals, they are transfers
> -there is no attempt at all to tell would be customers they are leaving
> their current vendor
>
> Churn is the name of the game now.  Scam is a hard word, but it seems to
> apply when you parse words.
>
> But that's cool, now that we know who it is, we will just block the domain
> and IP from our DNS. :) Let them hammer some other provider.
>
> What is funny is this person goes to work and thinks they are really doing
> something great with their life. Like churning unsuspecting customers is
> something to be proud of. Nah, they just see dollar signs, who would I be
> kidding.
>
> Lars Hindsley
> SpyProductions.com
> Achieve Web Success
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Brecher
> Sent: April 29, 2002 6:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: NEW Domain Scam
>
>
> One of our end users has notified us of a new domain "scam." Below is the
> email this user received:
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <Registrant26>
>  > Date: 4/24/02 6:24:42 PM
> > Subject: Renew today for only $14.95
> >
> > IMPORTANT INFORMATION:
> >
> > Save 60% on your annual domain renewal fees by
> > renewing at the special rate of only $14.95. For your
> > convenience, you can renew for a period of up to 10
> > years at the same time.
> >
> > Go to: http://www.renewmydomains.com today!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Administration Department
> > RenewMyDomains.com
> >
> >
> > To remove your email address from further promotional mailings from this
> company, click here:
> > http://www.centralremovalservice.com/cgi-bin/domain-remove.cgi
> >
> >
> > 5646MgYo2-273OYEl15
>
> After some digging I found that http://www.renewmydomains.com/ is really
> http://www.easy-internic.com/ or is reselling for them.
> http://www.easy-internic.com/ is a reseller of http://srsplus.com/ which
is
> now a "wholly owned subsidiary" of VERISIGN!
>
> Is there anything we can do about this ?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Alex Brecher
>
> Visit us at http://www.Successfulhosting.com
> We'll make your web site a success!
>
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>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "George Kirikos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 5:29 PM
> Subject: RE: Verisign "International Business Reply Mail" postage paid
> envelopes :)
>
>
> > >From Canada? Is it a NetSol affiliate? AFAIK, NetSol doesn't operate
out
> of
> > Canada. What's the return address?
> >
> > Jo Shea
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of George Kirikos
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:17 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Verisign "International Business Reply Mail" postage paid
> > envelopes :)
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I got the Verisign "renewal" scam mail today, and was about to toss it
> > in the garbage, but noticed that it had a POSTAGE PAID envelope inside!
> >
> > Coming from Canada, that has to cost them at least 50 cents, if not
> > more when you factor in the cost of opening each one, etc.
> >
> > I'll be sure to send it back to them, with a few choice words inside,
> > to make them rethink pulling this stunt again. All the names they tried
> > to get me to "renew" were never at NSI, either (all were OpenSRS names,
> > past and present).
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > George Kirikos
> > http://www.kirikos.com/
> >
> > P.S. I got a couple of "Domain Registry of Canada" ones today too, but
> > alas no postage-paid envelopes. :(
> >
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