Isn't that completely different to what Afilias told you, us before???

>>Afilias (.info) responds with:

>>"If the name is a sunrise name the new owner should update with their
>>trademark information.  If it is a landrush or real-time name the new
owner
>>should update with there (sic) information only."

>>and further:

>>What if the name is a sunrise name, but the new registrant does not have
>>TM info?

>>"They are subject to the rules of the sunrise period, which state you must
>>have a trademark that meets the requirements."


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Allan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chuck Hatcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: what about the trademark information after a transfer


> Here is an update from Afilias - we were really clear in our exchange this
> time:) (their answers are in CAPS):
>
>  >>If I have a sunrise name, can I transfer it to someone else?
> YES
>
>  >>Does this other party have to have a TM?
> NO
>
>  >>If they do not have a trademark, what should  the TM show in the WHOIS?
> Enter null information in the TM fields and it will not show up in the
WHOIS
>
>  >>Does Afilias review this transaction?
> NO
>
>  >>Would challenges be subject to the normal UDRP?
> YES
>
> Hope this clears up any concerns. Thanks to the good folks at Afilias for
> their help.
>
> sA
>
> At 11:29 AM 5/14/02 -0400, Chuck Hatcher wrote:
> >The question I have is this:
> >
> >Will there be any difference in the handling of disputes of domain names
> >initially registered without a trademark (eg landrush) and those
initially
> >registered with a trademark (eg sunrise), once the initial sunrise
> >challenges, STOP processes, etc. are over?
> >
> >Obviously any gTLD domain name is subject to a UDRP action at any time.
The
> >wording from Neulevel could be interpreted to mean UDRP and other
challenges
> >which apply to all .biz and .us names, not just those originally
registered
> >under sunrise rules.  The statements from Afilias, on the other hand,
imply
> >some sort of permanent watch on sunrise names to make sure nobody ever
tries
> >to own one without the benefit of a trademark.  (I have not heard
anything
> >>from Afilias regarding how revoked names will be returned to the public
pool
> >in the future, since LR2 does not seem to include many names currently
being
> >challenged by Afilias.)
> >
> >I don't know if the statements made by the registries are deliberately
vague
> >to allow for evolving policy changes, or if they are just having trouble
> >clearly expressing their intentions.  I think I understand
Neulevel/Neustar,
> >but I can't figure out why Afilias seems to be doing everything in their
> >power to reduce the stability and value of the .info namespace.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Scott Allan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Marc Schneiders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:33 AM
> >Subject: Re: what about the trademark information after a transfer
> >
> >
> > > At 04:26 PM 5/14/02 +0200, Marc Schneiders wrote:
> > > >What does this mean on a practical level? This is much too vague.
Suppose
> > > >that Microsoft is the registrant of word.info and they decide at some
> >time
> > > >in the future to rename their wordprocessor and sell the domain
> >word.info.
> > > >They sell it, say, to me, having no trademark on 'word'. This means
that
> > > >anyone who has, can UDRP me??
> > >
> > > This is not how I interpret their response. It get:
> > >
> > > - TM info was only required for initial registration
> > > - TM DB data is not the responsibility of the registry
> > >
> > > I then infer:
> > > - any name can be challenged at any time; registrants who acquire
already
> > > registered names should note this, and ensure they consider this when
> >acquiring
> > > - I would imagine that should they take prudent steps, and secure
> > > documentation etc... they will be able to withstand any challenges,
> > > provided they comply with the registries other terms
> > >
> > > Hope this helps -
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > sA
>
> Scott Allan
> Director OpenSRS
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

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