Please explain how this gives the registrant any benefit at all. Previously you could either renew from expiry to expiry+40, or register the domain afresh from expiry+40 onwards. Both at standard price.
Now you can renew from expiry to expiry+40, pay an extortionate fee from expiry+45 to expiry+75, or wait until expiry+75 and register anew. The ONLY change I can see from this is that Verisign can now make a fortune off people who have forgotten to renew or who have been waiting for expiry in order to 'transfer' a domain by re-registering at a different register. Perhaps I am missing something. Please let me know how this is in any way an improvement. David On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, R. Peter Ejtel wrote: > It is currently in effect. The fee the registry charges is completely > controlled and kept by the registry. > > The issue for us is that the registry has not offered us an automated way of > processing these requests. It is a very manual process (number of hours > worth of work internally each domain) to process these orders and can take a > number of business days to complete, so unfortunately we have to charge a > price above the registry's that at least let's us break even on the effort. > > Please keep in mind that although the pricing of this service is above > standard registrations and renewals, this tool was NOT available a couple of > weeks ago and we as well as you would have had to tell every registrant that > was unable to renew their domain during the 40 day grace period that they > had ZERO options, at least now they have one. > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Swerve > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:23 PM > To: Discuss List > Subject: Re: OpenSRS Live Reseller Update [.com/.net & .name] - 13/02/03 > > > Thanks for the fast reply, Peter. > > Is this Redemption period now in effect? > If not, when? > > As for Netsol's $85. fee. Hmm, i think the word outrageous does not convey > what i think about this. Does Netsol get the whole $85? If not, how is it > divided? > > tx, > > Swerve > > > From: "R. Peter Ejtel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:12:19 -0500 > > To: "Swerve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Discuss List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: OpenSRS Live Reseller Update [.com/.net & .name] - 13/02/03 > > > > An LRU about this process has just gone out. In order to address your > > question properly I will provide the relevant snippet out of the LRU for > > you. > > > > <Snippet> > > 2. New 'Redemption Period' implemented for .com and .net > > -------------------------- > > The registry operator for .com and .net (including > > Internationalised Domain Names) has implemented a 30 day Redemption > > Period. The Redemption Period is applicable for domain names that have > > expired and is in addition to the grace period that follows the expiry > > of a .com or .net registration. Domains names that are not renewed > > within 40 days of their expiry date can now be restored during the > > Redemption Period that starts 45 days following the expiry date and > > ends 75 days following the expiry date. > > > > The Redemption Period differs from the Grace Period in several > > Important aspects. > > > > *** Domain names must be 'redeemed' before they are renewed. The > > redemption process established by the registry is a separate, > > manual procedure that must be completed before the redeemed domain > > can be renewed. > > > > *** The Registry charges a substantial Redemption Fee to redeem a > > domain name. The redemption fee is in addition to the standard > > renewal fee. > > > > *** During the Redemption Period the Verisign Global Registry > > WHOIS will show the domain status as "REDEMPTIONPERIOD". > > > > The Redemption Period provides a final opportunity for Registrants to > > Renew a domain they did not intend to let expire. However, the > > process is costly, both in fees and in effort. Registrants should be > > discouraged from using the Redemption Period and encouraged to renew > > domains before expiry or during the grace period when a renewal can > > be conducted with the registry in real time and for no additional cost. > > > > If you have customer who needs to make use of the new Redemption > > Period for .com and .net please contact your Account Representative or > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information. > > </Snippet> > > > > If any of you have questions, please contact your account manager, or > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Thanks, > > > > Peter Ejtel > > Sales Manager > > Tucows Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 1-800-371-6992 Ext:2020 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Swerve > > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:01 PM > > To: Discuss List > > Subject: Re: OpenSRS Live Reseller Update [.com/.net & .name] - 13/02/03 > > > > > > Can someone from Opensrs refresh me about the details about the Redemption > ? > > From what i recall, this is after the 40 day expiry, and before total > > deletion or before the domain becomes registrable. How many days/weeks is > > that time now or when it becomes implemented? > > > > tx, > > > > Swerve > > > >> From: George Kirikos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:49:40 -0800 (PST) > >> To: Ben Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Discuss List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: Re: OpenSRS Live Reseller Update [.com/.net & .name] - 13/02/03 > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> --- Ben Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> On 13 2 2003 at 3:35 pm -0500, OpenSRS Replies wrote: > >>> > >>>> *** The Registry charges a substantial Redemption Fee to redeem a > >>>> domain name. The redemption fee is in addition to the standard > >>>> renewal fee. > >>> > >>> Would anyone have the insight to let us know what this substantial > >>> fee > >>> actually is? (Like, in dollars?) > >> > >> > >> USD $85 WHOLESALE. That's Verisign monopoly power for ya. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> > >> George Kirikos > >> http://www.AutoInsurance.ca/ > >> > > > > -- |> /+\ \| | |> David Croft Infotrek
