You're right of course about the usage of stolen credit cards to buy
perpetual registrations (we haven't had much problem in that area
because we tend to know our customers a bit better than some larger
RSPs). 

However, this could be dealt with using appropriate mechanisms -- in
current TLDs, there isn't a provision for this, but one could be made
for non-payment, or perhaps payment would only be allowed in known
"good" funds.

I also wasn't aware of the .NU domain, so I took a look.

According to this: http://www.nunames.nu/about/terms.cfm

... There are zillions of reasons and ways that the registry can toss
your .NU registration, plus lots of requirements regarding contact info,
and I don't even see anything to do with some level of public-key, two
part digital signature.

So I believe my comments still stand -- that if such a system was
implemented, it would be unique among TLDs....

Btw, thinking further about perpetual registrations.....

The agreement that Tucows or OpenSRS has with the government that "owns"
.VC is probably not perpetual, I would guess (correct me if I'm wrong,
of course). So the issue of how to deal with perpetual domain
registrations and possible termination of Tucow's right to operate the
registry might come up.

One solution would be to bank the $1000 (I picked that out of thin
air... It could be more or less) in an escrow account that was
interest-bearing. It would produce, let's say, $50 a year income
FOREVER, which could be split between the .VC government and Tucows,
providing in effect, perpetual revenue.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: 'Discuss List'
> Subject: Re: OpenSRS Live Reseller Update [.com/.net & .name] 
> - 13/02/03
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "'Discuss List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 11:14 PM
> Subject: RE: OpenSRS Live Reseller Update [.com/.net & .name] 
> - 13/02/03
> 
> 
> > 
> > All of this back-and-forth is really interesting (to somebody, I 
> > suppose
> > :) )...... 
> > 
> > But, I'd be interested in a discussion that was a mite bit more 
> > practical, namely:
> > 
> > Tucows/OpenSRS is the registry operator for .VC, correct?
> > 
> > I would guess right now, the value of .VC as just yet 
> another TLD is 
> > somewhat limited. While BIZ, INFO, US, etc. have had some levels of 
> > success, none of them have evinced any potential akin to 
> .COM, and .VC 
> > probably will be no different.
> > 
> > However.... Ross mentioned somewhere in this thread that 
> perhaps the 
> > challenge for any registry operator was to differentiate a TLD with 
> > specific features and policies that would make it unique 
> and add value 
> > to it... Above and beyond the value proposition that BIZ, INFO, US, 
> > NET, ORG, etc. provide (or CC, WS, etc.)
> > 
> > I'd be curious what others think about this... And of course, I 
> > wouldn't have brought this up if I didn't have two cents to 
> throw in, 
> > so here's mine to kick this off:
> > 
> > What if you:
> > 
> > * Make .VC truly first-come, first-served... No trademark 
> rights would 
> > hold.
> > 
> > * Make .VC anonymous... That is, via various mechanisms, 
> the identity 
> > of the holder is perpetually shielded completely. Ownership of the 
> > domain is via holding a digital key. Lose the key, or don't have 
> > access to it, and you don't own the domain.
> 
> .nu already does this.
> 
> > * .VC domains are perputual, without exception. Pay the 
> renewal fee, 
> > have the digital key, you own it. No issues like the recent 
> > ogrish.com/Joker.com issue (not that I agree with the content on 
> > ogrish.com, mind you -- that's not the point here). In other words, 
> > the AUP is "any usage whatever is acceptable... Pay the 
> fee, use the 
> > domain".
> > 
> > (And yes, spare me the arguments regarding spam, child porn, 
> > terrorists, druggies, whatever.... I'll stipulate to all those, but 
> > further contend that they would represent only a slightly larger 
> > percentage of the total .VC domain owner population than 
> .COM or any 
> > other TLD.... Except of course, .GOD <laughs>)
> > 
> > Of the three points, the first one is really apart from the other 
> > two... You can have #2 and #3, without #1, but I think there's some 
> > value to #1.
> > 
> > And here's a number 4.....
> > 
> > * Allow for yearly registrations, or allow for a perpetual 
> > ownership... For say, $1000, I can register putzhead.vc and own it 
> > forever.
> 
> That would encourage people t use stolen cards to register. 
> because we (the reseller) would have paid Tucows the 
> registration would stand. It would not be a good set up.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gordon Hudson
> Hostroute.com Ltd
> www.hostroute.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
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