That was dramatic, Evil.biz.

Btw, i like the extra 30 days before domains drop. (after the 45)
I cannot fathom how Verisign justifies their prices.  Did they create a 21
layered bureaucracy to justify the high rates?

Why don't they just maintain the whois and contact info until the domain is
finally deleted?  Likely there's other technical reasons that haven't
surfaced.

Would some Lurker from Verisign care to explain why it's so complicated and
expensive?

Must smoke and then sleep.

good night folks.

Swerve



> From: Loren Stocker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:38:31 -0800
> To: "ezgoing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Re: [redemption period]]
> 
> Our friend EZGoing gets hit by a car.
> 
> It so happens that his 175 inactive domains are due THAT day but EZGoing must
> spend his $1,750 for emergency treatment, in addition to losing the next six
> weeks of work.
> 
> After a miserable recovery, EZGoing is discharged on the very day that the
> first 100 of his 175 domains go into Redemption Grace. How wonderful. Verisign
> and our naive committee members have saved the day! He only owes $15,000 to
> $20,000 for being forty days late on his $1,000 payment. He's late and nothing
> else matters. No excuses allowed.
> 
> EZGoing, however, gladly pays up because he believes that, "$20,000 is not
> that high to recover from the mistake of not renewing on time."
> 
> Suck it up folks. Redemption Grace was not really meant to protect consumers
> but to line the pockets of Verisign. Was it Martin Luther who wisely observed,
> "If the Pope can empty Purgatory for the price of an Indulgence, why doesn't
> he do it out of love?" Redemption? Grace? When you're being extorted for twice
> the price of WLS -- and 15- 20 times the renewal fee-- think of this payment
> as a spiritual awakening!
> 
> Please don't get me wrong. I'm glad we have a Redemption Grace period, as it
> is the lesser of two evils -- total lose being the other! Yet, it's just SICK
> to see domain holders victimized for using it! Say "Grace" everyone.
> 
> Loren
> www.Evil.Biz
> 
> 
> 
> "ezgoing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually from what I have been told this is a manual process that requires a
> lot of paperwork by the registrar to regain the domain from Verisign.
> Paperwork requires manpower which requires expense.  So $150 or $200 may not
> be that high.  And I believe $75 or $85 of that fee goes to Verisign.
> 
> And there truly isn't any excuse to lose a domain name when you currently
> have 40 + days from expiration to renew the domain at the normal renewal
> rate.  If a client does not realize his domain is not working prior to 45
> days then the domain must not have been that important.  If the domain is
> that important, then $200 is not that high to recover from the mistake on
> not renewing on time.
> 
> I own 250 domains out of which I use about 75.   I owned more until the
> change in .org and I decided not to keep the .org of these domains.  I know
> when my domains are due to expire and I definitely know when one of my
> working domains goes down.  I never wait till the last minute to renew.
> 
> I have heard the argument that the domain may not be active and the client
> forgot about it or was too busy at the time.  But I don't have much sympathy
> for this type of client.   OpenSRS sends out a series of renewal notices in
> our name plus we send out a final notice five days prior to expiration and a
> final final the day before deletion.  If the client ignores all these
> notices then the client must take responsibility for losing the domain name
> or now, pay the redemption fee to recover the domain name.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Loren Stocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Readington.Com TLD support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [redemption period]
> 
> 
>> Well, I realize that this outrageous fee is the result of Verisign's
> policy,
>> but have we set an all time record for egregious late fees: 1500%!
>> 
>> If this were banking people would go to jail for that. Better pay those
>> renews!
>> 
>> Loren
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Readington.Com TLD support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Client wants to turn on his domain after 45 day grass period so the domain
>> is now in redemption period, I've been advised by opensrs that there is
>> $150ish charge by them plus renewal.
>> 
>> If client does not want to pay;
>> 
>> Is there any other means to turn this back on or am I stuck waiting the 75
>> days till it 'officialy' expires. And is that 75day rule solid?
>> 
>> thks
>> 
>> -steve
>> readington computers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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