I personally realsie and appreciate that a lot of focuus has been on the divorce from Oracle.
But there is an old saying that the seed that is sown in the ground is the seed that grows. Turn things around from "leaving Oracle" - "getting the community together" and refocuss in short order on why you have seperated from Oracle - to be in a position to be able to do a better job. And now focuss on what that better job is. You have highly talkanted developers amongst you - that hardly needs to be a better job it is very well done already - itds the overall product if I may use that word, and servicing your clientelle. That is the future. But if that is not at heart now, then the seed that will be growing into a onster tree is a movement about not being under an awful ogre (any number of corporations). The new community is by any definition a corporation (a body corporate) jsut not a private profit making one The questoin is what sort of corpoation will it become, and what does it exist for? Just some thoughts. 1. Quality customer service 2. Decission making porocesses that really utilise client feedback 3. UI development that really takes User experience and concerns to the heart of decission making 4. Feature devlopment and external process integration that leads the field and pre-empts clients' needs 5. Care for its own members professional and skill cultivation to meet these sorts of aims. 6. Unashamedly adopt policies, mandates, and leadership structures and review processes that facilitate the development and implementaton of the various component parts of the project(s) 7. Elect leaders for fixed terms (what ever) find a mechanism to move forward with out having to have a refunrendum on every single point great and small 8 Recognise and Give real places to people in needed expertese areas who are not dvelopers as such! Paul On 19 October 2010 11:45, Jon Hamkins <[email protected]> wrote: > On 10/18/2010 03:00 PM, Roxy Robinson wrote: > >> Well, you can think what you want to think and I, as just a common >> every day, 9 year user of OOo, will think what I want to think. Your >> thoughts went way beyond what I said needed to be done, anyway. To >> release any software, beta or otherwise, [without] the >> support/instruction function in place, is stupid! IMHO!!! > > (Roxy, please quote properly, so people won't get confused about who said > what. Thanks.) > > Well, you have a pretty strong opinion for it being humble. I don't think > anyone here is stupid, least of all the organizers and developers of TDF. > That's just rude. They are doing an awesome job. I guess we'll agree to > disagree. > > Also, it seems you are attempting to establish reputation by touting 9 years > usage, or perhaps I am misunderstanding your reason for mentioning it? Does > this matter? I don't think it does, but if you want to have that contest > please realize that I have been using StarOffice/OOo for a few years longer > than you -- I forget when StarDivision starting making it available free for > personal use, 1998, I think. > > It's beta software, so there should be no expectation that a common user > would be installing it -- there is a warning on the site that says it's not > for production use. The point I think is to send a message that LibO is > going to make the rubber hit the road, right out of the gate. Considering > all of the vaporware out there, I think that LibO is off to an awesome > start. > > And, it worked -- it got the community going. The beta was downloaded 80 > 000 times in the first week, and the developer list is going gang-busters on > patches. I consider this a wild success so far. > > > ----Jon > > -- > E-mail to [email protected] for instructions on how to > unsubscribe > List archives are available at > http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- E-mail to [email protected] for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
