p.s. The Swiss have, through the centuries, developed a real sense of checks and balances in participatory decession making porocesses that really efficently get things done in a way that they feel satisfied their goals and aims are being met.
I'll rest on this now - I hope that it helps any one who is contemplating these issues. Paul On 19 October 2010 12:16, Paul A Norman <[email protected]> wrote: > I personally realsie and appreciate that a lot of focuus has been on > the divorce from Oracle. > > But there is an old saying that the seed that is sown in the ground is > the seed that grows. > > Turn things around from "leaving Oracle" - "getting the community > together" and refocuss in short order on why you have seperated from > Oracle - to be in a position to be able to do a better job. > > And now focuss on what that better job is. > > You have highly talkanted developers amongst you - that hardly needs > to be a better job it is very well done already - itds the overall > product if I may use that word, and servicing your clientelle. That is > the future. > > But if that is not at heart now, then the seed that will be growing > into a onster tree is a movement about not being under an awful ogre > (any number of corporations). > > The new community is by any definition a corporation (a body > corporate) jsut not a private profit making one > > The questoin is what sort of corpoation will it become, and what does > it exist for? Just some thoughts. > > 1. Quality customer service > 2. Decission making porocesses that really utilise client feedback > 3. UI development that really takes User experience and concerns to > the heart of decission making > 4. Feature devlopment and external process integration that leads the > field and pre-empts clients' needs > 5. Care for its own members professional and skill cultivation to meet > these sorts of aims. > 6. Unashamedly adopt policies, mandates, and leadership structures and > review processes that facilitate the development and implementaton of > the various component parts of the project(s) > 7. Elect leaders for fixed terms (what ever) find a mechanism to move > forward with out having to have a refunrendum on every single point > great and small > 8 Recognise and Give real places to people in needed expertese areas > who are not dvelopers as such! > > Paul > > On 19 October 2010 11:45, Jon Hamkins <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 10/18/2010 03:00 PM, Roxy Robinson wrote: >> >>> Well, you can think what you want to think and I, as just a common >>> every day, 9 year user of OOo, will think what I want to think. Your >>> thoughts went way beyond what I said needed to be done, anyway. To >>> release any software, beta or otherwise, [without] the >>> support/instruction function in place, is stupid! IMHO!!! >> >> (Roxy, please quote properly, so people won't get confused about who said >> what. Thanks.) >> >> Well, you have a pretty strong opinion for it being humble. I don't think >> anyone here is stupid, least of all the organizers and developers of TDF. >> That's just rude. They are doing an awesome job. I guess we'll agree to >> disagree. >> >> Also, it seems you are attempting to establish reputation by touting 9 years >> usage, or perhaps I am misunderstanding your reason for mentioning it? Does >> this matter? I don't think it does, but if you want to have that contest >> please realize that I have been using StarOffice/OOo for a few years longer >> than you -- I forget when StarDivision starting making it available free for >> personal use, 1998, I think. >> >> It's beta software, so there should be no expectation that a common user >> would be installing it -- there is a warning on the site that says it's not >> for production use. The point I think is to send a message that LibO is >> going to make the rubber hit the road, right out of the gate. Considering >> all of the vaporware out there, I think that LibO is off to an awesome >> start. >> >> And, it worked -- it got the community going. The beta was downloaded 80 >> 000 times in the first week, and the developer list is going gang-busters on >> patches. I consider this a wild success so far. >> >> >> ----Jon >> >> -- >> E-mail to [email protected] for instructions on how to >> unsubscribe >> List archives are available at >> http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ >> All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted >> >> > -- E-mail to [email protected] for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
