+1 for Christian. We urgently need some place for the users to express their 'frustrations' haha...
Contributors already have a place to communicate, even if it's not as great as a forum. -- Florian Monfort Marketing Apprentice at Red Hat Marketing Team at The Document Foundation Student at France Business School +33 6 58 97 15 61 florian.monf...@gmail.com On Oct 8, 2012 10:29 AM, "Jonathan Aquilina" <eagles051...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think until we get things going that we should focus ONLY on user forums > for now and then we can slowly add contributors sections once we get the > teething problems and issues sorted and a steady work flow going. > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Charles-H. Schulz < > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > Christian, > > > > I don't think my tone was inappropriate, but if it really was I am sorry > > and it was not my intention. I still disagree with the approach of mixing > > both contributors and users forums development this way, but you should > not > > infer that I am against contributors forums..to me it is a very valid > > option for some type of contributions and teams, while not being an > option > > for others. My point is on the approach, not on the content of the > > proposal. > > > > Best, > > > > Charles. > > Le 8 oct. 2012 03:27, "Christian Lohmaier" < > > lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com> a écrit : > > > > > Hi Charles, *, > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Charles-H. Schulz > > > <charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > But the discussion was started about users forums. Anything besides > > that > > > > would require the interested teams to have been consulted before. > > > > > > This thread (or these threads, as they have gone to various lists, the > > > "interesting teams") /is/ the consulting *before*. > > > > > > As Marc correctly pointed out: This is part of the job he and the > > > other coordinators did volunteer for. Get the initial forum structure > > > sorted out, ask the affected people for their input. > > > > > > Your reply (or should I say the tone of your reply) was not > > > appropriate in this scenario. > > > > > > > What I > > > > fear at this stage is both confusion from new contributors (for > > instance > > > > someone submitting a patch to a forum might never get picked up > because > > > > devs would not bother reading the forum) and exhaustion from the > > > > moderators. > > > > > > Björn and others made it pretty clear from the very start that core > > > development will continue to use the mailinglists, and I don't > > > remember anyone questioning that, so the notification was just that. - > > > A notification. > > > > > > No list will be forced to move to the forum. > > > > > > If people complain, then they complain and state: No, thanks. > > > > > > If you read the mails, you notice that this is one of the options that > > > were offered. > > > > > > That now you tell "the Board wants a forum exclusively meant for > > > user-support" I reply "WTF did nobody else from the board point that > > > out earlier". > > > Björn after all is Deputy on the Board, and his input early in the > > > process was the basis for all this, as it was quite a reasonable thing > > > to do. > > > > > > So while I don't question your intentions, I question your style in > this > > > regard. > > > > > > Yes, suggesting to move a list to the forum is controversial, Björn > > > did already anticipate that. But that by itself doesn't make it a > > > stupid idea that needs to be stopped at all cost. > > > > > > Just say: "No thanks, I prefer to keep <whatever> to use the > > > mailinglists" and move on to the next topic. > > > > > > ciao > > > Christian > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > > Problems? > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > > > > > -- > Jonathan Aquilina > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
