I am now wondering if this should be put forth to the board that way we can get a clear end all decision and move forward with the forums and getting them going.
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Jean Weber <jeanwe...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with Jonathan and others, and indeed said as much some time > ago when the forums were first being discussed. At the time Björn > appeared to be quite emphatic about the opposite point of view (forums > for contributors being at least as important, if not more so), and I > was under the impression that was the Board's preference too, so I > didn't argue further. Sounds like I may not have not been paying > enough attention. > > --Jean > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Jonathan Aquilina > <eagles051...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think until we get things going that we should focus ONLY on user > forums > > for now and then we can slowly add contributors sections once we get the > > teething problems and issues sorted and a steady work flow going. > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Charles-H. Schulz < > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > >> Christian, > >> > >> I don't think my tone was inappropriate, but if it really was I am sorry > >> and it was not my intention. I still disagree with the approach of > mixing > >> both contributors and users forums development this way, but you should > not > >> infer that I am against contributors forums..to me it is a very valid > >> option for some type of contributions and teams, while not being an > option > >> for others. My point is on the approach, not on the content of the > >> proposal. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Charles. > >> Le 8 oct. 2012 03:27, "Christian Lohmaier" < > >> lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com> a écrit : > >> > >> > Hi Charles, *, > >> > > >> > On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Charles-H. Schulz > >> > <charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > But the discussion was started about users forums. Anything besides > >> that > >> > > would require the interested teams to have been consulted before. > >> > > >> > This thread (or these threads, as they have gone to various lists, the > >> > "interesting teams") /is/ the consulting *before*. > >> > > >> > As Marc correctly pointed out: This is part of the job he and the > >> > other coordinators did volunteer for. Get the initial forum structure > >> > sorted out, ask the affected people for their input. > >> > > >> > Your reply (or should I say the tone of your reply) was not > >> > appropriate in this scenario. > >> > > >> > > What I > >> > > fear at this stage is both confusion from new contributors (for > >> instance > >> > > someone submitting a patch to a forum might never get picked up > because > >> > > devs would not bother reading the forum) and exhaustion from the > >> > > moderators. > >> > > >> > Björn and others made it pretty clear from the very start that core > >> > development will continue to use the mailinglists, and I don't > >> > remember anyone questioning that, so the notification was just that. - > >> > A notification. > >> > > >> > No list will be forced to move to the forum. > >> > > >> > If people complain, then they complain and state: No, thanks. > >> > > >> > If you read the mails, you notice that this is one of the options that > >> > were offered. > >> > > >> > That now you tell "the Board wants a forum exclusively meant for > >> > user-support" I reply "WTF did nobody else from the board point that > >> > out earlier". > >> > Björn after all is Deputy on the Board, and his input early in the > >> > process was the basis for all this, as it was quite a reasonable thing > >> > to do. > >> > > >> > So while I don't question your intentions, I question your style in > this > >> > regard. > >> > > >> > Yes, suggesting to move a list to the forum is controversial, Björn > >> > did already anticipate that. But that by itself doesn't make it a > >> > stupid idea that needs to be stopped at all cost. > >> > > >> > Just say: "No thanks, I prefer to keep <whatever> to use the > >> > mailinglists" and move on to the next topic. > >> > > >> > ciao > >> > Christian > >> > > >> > -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
