@Kevin: A Top 10 list would be a great start; that's already a basketful to deal with! I think we already know what schools to look at first: Harvard, MIT, NYU, Georgetown, USC, Swarthmore, etc. @Christina: If we get this thing off the ground in time, we could get a lot of exposure during college apps time through the usual channels: Slashdot, Ars, digg, BB, etc.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Christina Ducruet <[email protected]>wrote: > What an excellent suggestion. These are also high profile so our ratings > could conceivably get viewed by a lot of people researching these schools. > Anyone got great SEO skills? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Kevin Donovan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just had a meeting with some people at Georgetown and bounced this idea off > them. They really like it and think it would be a good way to enact change. > > One point they made: because we do not have the resources to do a large > survey of schools, one professor with lots of political experience suggested > we do a Top 10 Report as a beginning (researching and ranking US News' Top > 10 Schools). I think this makes a lot of sense because it will still force > us to define the methodology and give us experience with the research > process, but it will not over-extend us. What's more, once we have this, it > could serve as a point to justify some funding to do a larger survey. > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM, D Parker Phinney < <[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> definitely interested in helping with logistics, including both the >> criteria for the report card, as well as any web programming or whatever >> that needs to be done. after tuesday, school is out! >> >> Wesley Chen wrote: >> > @Kevin: Right, determining the criteria and their point weight seems to >> > be the hardest part. Each category, such as Open Access or Network >> > Filtering ought to be broken down into smaller, simple questions like >> > "has the university considered Open Access?" or "is the university in >> > discussion about implementing OA?" The point is to make the overall >> > grading criteria as granular as possible. Besides Y/N questions, I can't >> > think of another way to make a objective judgment—using a scale of 1-5 >> > clearly isn't an option. So in any subcategory, a YES may yield any >> > number of points. This grading system obviously will be finessed later. >> > *I think assembling the criteria bank will be the toughest part.* >> > >> > *...@christina: Sure. Let's say that the overall criteria index is worth >> > 50 points. You'd need at least 45 points for an "A"-range grade. >> > However, we're running into the same problem of objectiveness if our >> > definition of openness isn't based in numbers. So, openness might have >> > to be defined by 10 or so Y/N questions. >> > >> > @Alex: Would appreciate that! >> > >> > Parker H and I already had a discussion about this recently. I think >> > this project has a lot of potential, and I'm glad we're picking up steam >> > again. Anyone else who hasn't chimed in on this thread interested in >> > forming a more formal committee to work on this? >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Alex Kozak < <[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> > <mailto: <[email protected]>[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > ccLearn is starting up a project to create a database for University >> > copyright ownership policies in a Semantic MediaWiki format. I >> > should be able to give you all more information about that soon so >> > that you could use it and/or contribute to it, but it isn't quite >> > ready yet. >> > >> > - Alex >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Kevin Donovan <<[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> > <mailto: <[email protected]>[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > I really do like this idea and the idea of a stand-alone Open >> > University Report site sounds great. >> > >> > My main concern (outside scalability) is the criteria by which >> we >> > judge. Ideally, it would be objective so we could cross index >> > schools, >> > but what would those be besides Y/N indicators? >> > >> > On 4/27/09, Wesley Chen < <[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> > <mailto: <[email protected]>[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> > > Parker: One of the kids you might remember meeting when I was >> at >> > > Dartmouth on Sat night worked on GreenReportCard.org a little >> > while back. >> > > Looking at that site tonight has given me the idea that we >> > should try to >> > > create a similar score card with a set of standardized >> > grading criteria >> > > (e.g. administration, licensing, Open Access, etc.). >> > > The way our wiki article is structured right now is clunky, >> > and the >> > > information is admittedly incomplete. How about creating a >> > rundown for each >> > > school similar to the way GRC does it? It's easier (and more >> > fun) to read >> > > and write, plus I think it would be far more appealing to the >> > non-FC crowd >> > > comparing colleges or to those already attending but looking >> > to identify >> > > areas of improvement at their school. >> > > >> > > Do you think the report card portion of OU should spin off >> > and become its >> > > own project and web site? Baby steps first, of course, but I >> > think moving in >> > > that direction could have great potential. >> > > >> > > — W >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:31 PM, D Parker Phinney >> > > < <[email protected]>[email protected] >> > <mailto:<[email protected]> >> [email protected]>>wrote: >> > > >> > >> so, some schools are ending for summer very soon. we still >> > have a good >> > >> 5 weeks here at dartmouth, and we plan on spending part of >> > that time >> > >> getting together our OU status report (once controversially >> > referred to >> > >> as a "report card") together. >> > >> >> > >> i encourage other chapters to try to do the same by the end >> > of the >> > >> school year. it would be great to get some kind of press >> > release or >> > >> blog post together early this summer showing where we are >> > and what we've >> > >> done. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> <http://wiki.freeculture.org/Open_University_individual_university_status_and_information> >> http://wiki.freeculture.org/Open_University_individual_university_status_and_information >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> an incomplete report is better than a nonexistent one. >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> D Parker Phinney >> > >> madebyparker.com < <http://madebyparker.com> >> http://madebyparker.com> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Discuss mailing list >> > >> <[email protected]>[email protected] >> > <mailto:<[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> > >> <http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss> >> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > Sent from my mobile device >> > >> > Kevin Donovan >> > Georgetown '11: SFS >> > 630.849.8285 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Discuss mailing list >> > <[email protected]>[email protected] >> > <mailto:<[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> > <http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss> >> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Alex Kozak >> > <[email protected]>[email protected] <mailto:<[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> > 916.225.2718 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Discuss mailing list >> > <[email protected]>[email protected] >> > <mailto:<[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> > <http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss> >> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Discuss mailing list >> > <[email protected]>[email protected] >> > <http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss> >> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> -- >> D Parker Phinney >> madebyparker.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> <[email protected]>[email protected] >> <http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss> >> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > > > -- > Kevin Donovan > Georgetown '11: SFS > 630.849.8285 > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >
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