Cornell switched this past year, from a user perspective, it's been great
having tons of storage and a useful web interface, as well as still having
IMAP and POP, but I haven't been able to find anything on the freedom
aspects of things besides general privacy agreement stuff that probably
doesn't hold water.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Matthew Senate <[email protected]>wrote:

> I know UC Davis has done the switch as well:
> http://www.dateline.ucdavis.edu/dl_detail.lasso?id=10587
>
> Alex is right in that institutions (especially Universities) should be
> critical of their own networks and email systems. However, this does not
> mean Google is the best, or even necessarily a better option. In fact, my
> argument is that University systems are better merely because they are
> homegrown.
>
> All aspects of a University have the potential to become zones of
> learning. Education does not take place in classrooms alone. Perhaps
> administrations see running networks and, specifically, email service as a
> financial and logistical burden, given that companies like Google can
> provide similar services for much cheaper. However, what opportunity does
> this leave for faculty, researchers, and students to change the system or
> use it in such a way that facilitates their learning?
>
> An example at Berkeley is the Open Computing Facility (OCF,
> http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu). It is an entirely student-run group that
> provides FREE hosting and email for many student groups, individual
> students/teachers/researchers, and even academic departments who are short
> on funding! It does not make sense to me for a University to employ Google
> when more support could be given to the members of the institution
> itself--specifically to students--and effectively kill two birds with one
> stone: education AND email.
>
> > Adi Kamdar wrote:
> >> Hey folks,
> >>
> >> The Yale Daily News ran an article today about how there's
> >> almost-definite talk about Yale switching to Google Apps for Education
> >> and using Google servers/software to host our email.
> >>
> >>
> http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/university-news/2010/02/09/google-run-yale-e-mail/
> >>
> >> I was wondering if you guys had any thoughts or good literature on the
> >> issues with this (re privacy, data, costs, security, tech, law, etc.).
> >> For the most part, the students are overjoyed about this since our old
> >> email system is painful to use, so it'd be nice to address usability
> >> issues as well.
> >
> > This was also under discussion at UF when I was there, and is a hot
> > topic among the higher ed IT crowd in general. There were similar
> > dynamics to the discussion: a lot of students familiar with Gmail
> > interface and unhappy with the occasional issues of the local service.
> >
> > Background reading:
> > http://www.educause.edu/Resources/Browse/Cloud%20Computing/27148
> > http://autonomo.us/
> >
> > As others on the list have expressed, it's hard to draw an unambiguous
> > conclusion about this development. I do think it's worthwhile for
> > students to articulate their free culture concerns in this area, though.
> > Regardless of who hosts it, students' email should have strong privacy
> > protection, should be managed by free software, should follow open
> > standards, and should be accessible regardless of disability.
> >
> > --
> > Gavin Baker
> > http://www.gavinbaker.com/
> > [email protected]
> >
> > It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.
> >      Yogi Berra (attributed)
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
_______________________________________________
Discuss mailing list
[email protected]
http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Reply via email to