This is beginning to smell like a good workshop/discussion for the
un-conference on Sunday. "Google Eating University Email Services, Many
Concerned -- or -- Hard-pressed Institutions Saving a Buck with Google's
Quality Email Service"

> This seems to have a lot of answers...
> It's a Google Q&A session with ASU:
>
> http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:P66bh5pCrl4J:vpiet.ucdavis.edu/students/UCD.Google.Meeting.Notes.01.24.07.doc+ferpa+gmail&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
>
> Essentially, we're writing an op-ed about this decision, but focusing less
> on (yet definitely mentioning) the potential issues, and more on the lack
> of
> transparency behind this change.
>
> -Adi
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Alec Story <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Greg Grossmeier
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> "useful" web interface is up for debate regarding gmail: where the EF
>>> are
>>> my threads? Do you know where in the thread I am replying right now,
>>> and
>>> to whom? Only because I quote correctly. </rant>
>>>
>>> But seriously, I don't know of any modern university IT department who
>>> also doesn't have "tons of storage" along with IMAP and POP access.
>>>
>>
>> Well, I can give you one that doesn't:  Cornell's in-house system (which
>> is
>> still running, I think, although they're trying to move everybody off of
>> it)
>> only offer something like 200 MB of storage, which is very easy to fill,
>> even without trying to use email for storing much.  And the web
>> interface we
>> had before was a joke - it took six or seven clicks just to get to the
>> most
>> recent messages, messages weren't sorted by anything by default as far
>> as I
>> could tell, and even when you got them sorted by date, the most recent
>> loaded at the bottom, and it took the server 1-2 minutes to send you the
>> previous 100 or so messages on that page.  I used Evolution because
>> there
>> was no other feasible way to read email, but I couldn't use it on
>> library
>> computers, and thunderbird portable is a hassle to bring everywhere with
>> you.
>>
>> So, from a usability standpoint, a lot of us here welcomed Google with
>> open
>> arms, but there's shockingly little thought about the privacy
>> ramifications.  We tried to raise some awareness, but FCCornell is
>> suffering
>> from, er, acute member shortage.
>>
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