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On Feb 10, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Matthew Senate wrote:

This is beginning to smell like a good workshop/discussion for the
un-conference on Sunday. "Google Eating University Email Services, Many Concerned -- or -- Hard-pressed Institutions Saving a Buck with Google's
Quality Email Service"

This seems to have a lot of answers...
It's a Google Q&A session with ASU:

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:P66bh5pCrl4J:vpiet.ucdavis.edu/students/UCD.Google.Meeting.Notes.01.24.07.doc+ferpa+gmail&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Essentially, we're writing an op-ed about this decision, but focusing less on (yet definitely mentioning) the potential issues, and more on the lack
of
transparency behind this change.

-Adi


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Alec Story <[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Greg Grossmeier
<[email protected]>wrote:

"useful" web interface is up for debate regarding gmail: where the EF
are
my threads? Do you know where in the thread I am replying right now,
and
to whom? Only because I quote correctly. </rant>

But seriously, I don't know of any modern university IT department who
also doesn't have "tons of storage" along with IMAP and POP access.


Well, I can give you one that doesn't: Cornell's in-house system (which
is
still running, I think, although they're trying to move everybody off of
it)
only offer something like 200 MB of storage, which is very easy to fill,
even without trying to use email for storing much.  And the web
interface we
had before was a joke - it took six or seven clicks just to get to the
most
recent messages, messages weren't sorted by anything by default as far
as I
could tell, and even when you got them sorted by date, the most recent loaded at the bottom, and it took the server 1-2 minutes to send you the
previous 100 or so messages on that page.  I used Evolution because
there
was no other feasible way to read email, but I couldn't use it on
library
computers, and thunderbird portable is a hassle to bring everywhere with
you.

So, from a usability standpoint, a lot of us here welcomed Google with
open
arms, but there's shockingly little thought about the privacy
ramifications.  We tried to raise some awareness, but FCCornell is
suffering
from, er, acute member shortage.

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