I believe cases (like Veoh) have established that a company has to do what
is financially and reasonably possible to filter content and eliminate
infringing work in order to qualify for safe harbor.

-Adi


On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Alex Kozak <[email protected]>wrote:

> There is no clear legal answer to that question, although in my cyberlaw
> class a year or so ago I took the position in a research paper that recent
> court decisions have *in effect* required services to adopt filtering
> practices (else they faced increased risk to claims of secondary liability
> for infringement).
>
> I should probably go into more detail but I'd have to go back and read my
> own paper :)
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Kevin Donovan <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> A willingness to technically foreclose fair use with content filtering
>>
>> software shielded Google/YouTube from liability -- but it caused
>>
>> widespread confusion and frustration among users.
>>
>>
>> I'm relatively ignorant on this, but isn't Google/YouTube not required by
>> law to filter content? Don't they do so to appease studios that might be
>> willing to partner with them formally? So, it wasn't the willingness to
>> filter that won the case for them, but the DMCA which recognizes the
>> inability to monitor, effectively, either through humans or algorithms, UGC,
>> right?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Kevin Driscoll 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:11:34 -0400
>>> > From: Adi Kamdar <[email protected]>
>>> > Subject: [FC-discuss] Judge Sides with Google in Viacom Case
>>> >
>>> > https://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/24/technology/24google.html?hp
>>> >
>>> > tl;dr: Judge said Google has "safe harbor" protections, so Viacom can't
>>> sue
>>> > for their stuff being uploaded. Viacom plans on appealing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have mixed feelings over this result. I am happy to see a ridiculous
>>> claim thrown out but I can't forget the costs that were incurred to
>>> maintain that YouTube's "safe harbor" status.
>>>
>>> A willingness to technically foreclose fair use with content filtering
>>> software shielded Google/YouTube from liability -- but it caused
>>> widespread confusion and frustration among users.
>>>
>>> AFAIK, content-filtering software is a crude tool that cannot
>>> differentiate remix, criticism, parody, or academic uses from
>>> copyright infringement.
>>>
>>> I deeply appreciate the steps that YouTube has made over the past year
>>> to integrate tools that help users resist intimidating
>>> cease-and-desist notices (e.g. a Chilling Effects-style DMCA
>>> Counter-Notice form) but the present situation still satisfies the
>>> interests of a select few "content owners" at the expense of popular
>>> participatory culture.
>>>
>>> Popular culture on the internet absolutely will continue to flourish,
>>> startle, and inspire - bad policy can't stop it - but it hurts to see
>>> rich potential stymied by FUD ... only to be declared legal years
>>> later.
>>>
>>> Kevin
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>>
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