Hi Bianca, I can assist with some of these issues.
Taiwo On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 1:48 PM Bianca Peterson < [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I just want to add my two cents as well! > > We recently taught some of The Carpentries' modules during a 10-week long > self-paced virtual summer school (hosted by the University of Pretoria, > South Africa). We released a set of pre-recorded videos each week and they > had to work through the material and exercises on their time. Instructors > were available on Slack to answer any questions, and we had 2 online > sessions per week to reflect/review the work and allow for interactive > questions. > > Even though the installation instructions are given on Software and Data > Carpentries' websites, some people still struggled to install the software. > The most common misunderstandings we encountered: > - When they click the link provided on the website and download the .exe > file (for Windows), they assume the program is installed already. > - When they download a compressed (.zip) file, they don't know how to > extract the contents before being able to install the actual software. > - If they managed to extract the contents from the compressed file, they > did not realise that they needed to navigate to the newly extracted > directory to access the installer - they would still try to install the > software in the compressed file. > > Of course we also had issues with admin rights on some learners' laptops > and had to provide specific steps to work around that. > > One simple solution is to record short videos that demonstrate how to > install the various software programs on each operating system and link > that in the installation instructions. If some of them still don't manage > to install it successfully, an "installation party" can be arranged a day > or two before the workshop is to start. Yes, docker might be "easier" for > the instructors, but definitely not for the learners when they go back home. > > Best wishes, > Bianca > > Bianca Peterson, Ph.D. Environmental Sciences (Genetics) > Post-doctoral Research Fellow: Pharmaceutics > Potchefstroom Campus > North-West University > South Africa > 2531 > <https://twitter.com/BinxiePeterson?lang=en> [image: > https://www.linkedin.com/in/bianca-peterson-007b5b117/] > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/bianca-peterson-007b5b117/> [image: > https://github.com/BinxiePeterson] <https://github.com/BinxiePeterson> > > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 7:31 PM Deborah Paul via discuss < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> I’d include “how to open a zipped file.” >> >> If I (or others here) can find it, there’s a great list of skills >> gathered when we brainstormed what to put in the first Data Carpentry >> workshop. I’ll have a look. >> >> Debbie >> >> >> Sent from Shoe (my iPhone) >> >> On Jul 7, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Rohit Goswami <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Very few aspects of our lessons really require administrative access; but >> it would be good to add a page on it. >> — >> Rohit >> >> On 7 Jul 2021, at 21:51, Elizabeth McAulay wrote: >> >> I think the following topics might be useful to have written down, but >> I'd like to also advocate for instructors being willing to narrate and >> explain these topics in workshops. The Carpentries tone for me has >> emphasized learning and inclusivity, and that means acknowledging learner >> needs through interaction during the workshop. I don't think anyone is >> suggesting otherwise, but I thought I'd say it specifically so that the >> purpose of the lesson, or maybe "pre-lesson," be understood in the larger >> picture. >> >> My suggestions for this lesson are: >> 1) It might be good to know what "home directory" means in different >> operating systems. >> 2) Common spreadsheet programs >> 3) Common text editor programs >> >> Slightly separate topic, in a recent Community Discussion Call, we >> covered that US Government employees will never be given administrator >> privileges to their machines. This was a discussion with two US Government >> agency employees who had trained to become instructors, so they will be >> working to lead workshops inside their agency. I thought a good one-pager >> that might explain how machine IT staff could be brought in as helpers and >> advocates could be useful. >> >> This list is for the purpose of general discussion about The Carpentries > including community activities, upcoming events, and announcements. Some > other lists you may also be interested in include discuss-hpc, discuss-r, > and our local groups. Visit https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/ to > learn more. 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