help me understand how this works? If you several groups that are working on the same thing, and both want to put back, is it first come? We are working with a group wanting to work on crypto, do they ask for participation? Should you announce intent?

i love freedom, but there has to be some organization?? some sort of working groups to ensure some sanity in integration?

lk

On 11/29/11 9:51 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
I agree with Bryan.  Unfortunately news of illumian escaped before the code 
did. When I started illumos it was first with a code drop.

In any case a governing body has no place in a discussion like this as there is 
no basis for it to govern. People are free to fork and innovate.  And this is 
as it should be.

   -- Garrett

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 29, 2011, at 9:12 PM, "Bryan 
Cantrill"<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:


On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Linda 
Kateley<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:
All of this discussion makes me know more than ever that we need a governing 
board. Everyone is right and everyone is wrong. In order to make decisions a 
board should be elected by the community and for the community. From the 
governing board, we should be able to add working groups/projects.

All in favor of nominating and electing a governing board?

No, no, no, no and no!  This is _exactly_ the kind of process/governance fetish that OpenSolaris 
developed, and it must be firmly and emphatically rejected!  We do _not_ need to "elect 
projects" -- we need to experiment with many different kinds of ideas _by_ _implementing_ 
_them_.  That is, without the burden of elections and governing boards and "sponsored 
projects" and all of this other crypto-fascist nonsense.  Please:  lead with _implementation_, 
not rhetoric.  If there's a mistake here, it's the fact that illumian was pre-announced here and 
opened for bike shedding instead of just _made_ _available_.  So if you want to announce something, 
do it with a public source repository and a download -- that's all the process we need.

         - Bryan

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