I agree with Bryan.  Unfortunately news of illumian escaped before the code 
did. When I started illumos it was first with a code drop.

In any case a governing body has no place in a discussion like this as there is 
no basis for it to govern. People are free to fork and innovate.  And this is 
as it should be.

  -- Garrett

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On Nov 29, 2011, at 9:12 PM, "Bryan Cantrill" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Linda Kateley 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
All of this discussion makes me know more than ever that we need a governing 
board. Everyone is right and everyone is wrong. In order to make decisions a 
board should be elected by the community and for the community. From the 
governing board, we should be able to add working groups/projects.

All in favor of nominating and electing a governing board?

No, no, no, no and no!  This is _exactly_ the kind of process/governance fetish 
that OpenSolaris developed, and it must be firmly and emphatically rejected!  
We do _not_ need to "elect projects" -- we need to experiment with many 
different kinds of ideas _by_ _implementing_ _them_.  That is, without the 
burden of elections and governing boards and "sponsored projects" and all of 
this other crypto-fascist nonsense.  Please:  lead with _implementation_, not 
rhetoric.  If there's a mistake here, it's the fact that illumian was 
pre-announced here and opened for bike shedding instead of just _made_ 
_available_.  So if you want to announce something, do it with a public source 
repository and a download -- that's all the process we need.

        - Bryan

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