Hello Ram,
I can not speak my thought out to the community like Andre and Till
because those Genius on illumos communty are much more smarter then I
ever we be.
But from my point of view as sysadmin and my opinion I have to agree
100% with the guy's like Andre and Till, I also followed Brendan and
have much deep respect for him, true I think it's also sad that he
choose for getting the Linux Road where I came from, but also respect
his chose.
But on the other side these days the hype are Linux and Cloud but for
how long ...
What gonna happen when Linus Torvalds decide to quit because of his age
and want to go on pension or some different scenarios ...
Why is Linux taking all the baggage and crap from early day's with it
till today ???
Why not Listening to people how already experience all these issues ?
But then still UNIX is designed and developed after it's design but
Linux is evolved to that what today Linux is ...
So Linux will never become what illumos is and will become after all the
new innovation's talk in this mailing list.
I have talk a lot with my customers specially now when Oracle decide to
stopping developing on Solaris, Those customers don't want to go over to
Linux, They want to have the same stability features and all the stuff
what comes with illumos, the questions remains they want to have a
support contract which they don't really need because they have a
support contract with our company who deliver all the services, and we
can always fall back to the community.
Also to the Cloud it's just not possible, the amount of data is way to
big to send over the INTERNET, they always gonna stay on premise.
True they think about solutions like Cloud on premise managed by Oracle
or others but also there we see a lot of trouble, some customers went
over to EXADATA and now are coming back to Solaris or looking to illumos
because of the performance, networking, easy management etc ...
It's a heavy job to convince those company's but slowly they start to
get it and understand it that's all about FOSS and UNIX, in the mean
time those company already standing open for it and asking POC to setup
so they can start testing and feeling comfort with it.
And I think that's a point you have to go is getting you customers
comfort feeling back !!!
Also we are in meeting with Datto which is a Backup Disaster Recovery
and those guy's having a great solution and taking it from a different
sight which I really appreciate, only they running it on ubuntu.
We spoke and ask to them why not using illumos this application is
jelling to use server OS => illumos
We already made a second appointment with some technical people because
they standing open to this idea and to discuss this, I really hope we
can convince them to switch over and using illumos as OS.
So I think If you are working on something don't let take you down
because a lot of people are starting to wake up and looking for
solutions like illumos and you features ...
Thank you very much.
Kind Regards,
Dirk
On 02-10-17 13:20, Till Wegmüller wrote:
Well the only thing I can say don't be.
There is a lot of stuff going on in the space of illumos (more on a
hobby side of things maybe).
Yeah linux might be the turnkey kind of solution for Serivce X where
everything comes pre packaged but that is mostly bad in real production
scenarios. In production you need to know what you are running and how
you have installed it otherwise you will have some sleepless nights.
And don't get me started on Kernel Stability...... Many Sleepless nights
with fibrechannel multipath and kernel crashing.
Also from Experience the ZFS ARC issue he mentions is vastly underplayed
in his blog post. I have to reboot my Machine every month because ZFS
arc has eaten all my memory. And it's categorized as Application memory.
The kernel does not free that.
If you want some excitement for Illumos I suggest this talk: [1]
/ranting
Greetings
Till
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coFIEH3vXPw
On 02.10.2017 12:29, Sriram Narayanan wrote:
http://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2017-09-05/solaris-to-linux-2017.html
I'm working on something that will benefit the Illumos community, but
reading this post has deflated my enthusiasm :(
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