i have a macbook pro and with accessories it weighs a ton. however, it cost
not much more (refurb) than this machine and my shoulder is hardly aching.
i'm sure there are people who can justify the expense but i can't given the
lack of features - no ethernet port? one USB port? c'mon!

On 1/16/08, Mark Schraad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> But if the horsepower is beyond what you currently use... and you carry a
> laptop everywhere, it may in fact be worth the bucks (to save your
> shoulder). This is not a machine targeting power users or designers. But, I
> know a ton of designers in small shops and even at the corporate level who
> are doing say... print design and production with slower machines and less
> than 2Gig. Frankly, were I in the market for a new laptop right now, this
> would likely be my purchase.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 16, 2008, at 12:02PM, "Ari Feldman" <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >i concur. this has cube written all over it.
> >the new macbooks are a much better value. space and weight are important
> but
> >for $1799, you can damn near buy a refurb core duo 2 macbook pro with 2GB
> of
> >RAM and 40% better performance plus much more expandability.
> >
> >the macbook air is a design achievement but seems more of a toy for the
> >affluent than those who work for their money or just want the latest toy.
> >
> >On 1/15/08, Diamond Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I can't help but think they've missed the boat on this one. Yes, it is
> >> beautiful and technolust-inspiring but the flaws are many. to wit:
> >>
> >> No user-removable battery. This is a guaranteed trip to Apple in a
> >> year or two, and when traveling, one will have to carry a dongle-
> >> enabled external battery if one needs extra power away from a wall
> >> outlet, 5 hours of battery life not withstanding.
> >>
> >> External DVD drive. I remember when I had my Powerbook Duo. When
> >> commuting I never worried about the external drive, but when traveling
> >> I always carried it. Why? It seemed like there was always software to
> >> install, or offload to a client or video to watch. So in the bag it
> >> goes, along with the cable. Didn't really save much space. And then
> >> there is the external connector--a possible failure point...unless it
> >> is magsafe too.
> >>
> >> A single USB port, and no firewire. This limits the disks and
> >> peripherals you can connect to, and will inspire a plethora of USB
> >> hubs meant for the MBA. Which will go into the bag. Again, space
> saving?
> >>
> >> The RAM disk version is $3k. I'm not sure you're gonna save a lot of
> >> weight because of the extra stuff you'll have to carry around (Is the
> >> AC adapter as sleek?) and purchase. The Duo failed because it while it
> >> was beautiful and cool as hell, it underperformed as  laptop and was
> >> limited as a desktop.
> >>
> >> I can't see anyone who is in a creative field purchasing this unless
> >> it is a luxury. I can't see this being a primary machine and at
> >> $2k-3k, it is a very expensive peripheral. I see this as targeted
> >> toward executives who want a sexy meeting accessory, or someone who
> >> just uses her MBA to blog a little, and surf a lot, or a writer.
> >>
> >> It is a beautiful machine but it smells like the Cube. It too was a
> >> beautiful, limited machine, a feat of engineering. But with the lack
> >> of expandability and it's cost, people could not justify it. It died,
> >> as did the 10th anniversary mac, the other "executive" mac. It's
> >> really funny but Apple from time to time comes out with these products
> >> that are meant to show off their engineering prowess, but don't really
> >> address that sweet spot intersection between cost, utility and
> >> aesthetics. Each time they do, the product usually fails, but serves
> >> to inform other products. For example:
> >>
> >> Failure: Apple Lisa
> >> Value: Precursor to the Mac, proved the concept of GUI interfaces and
> >> the mouse
> >> Evolution: Mac Plus
> >>
> >> Failure: Macintosh Portable
> >> Value: Introduced the trackball
> >> Evolution: Powerbook
> >>
> >> Failure: Mac 10th anniversary edition
> >> Value: First example of a vertical computer built around a screen
> >> Evolution: iMac G5 and later
> >>
> >> Failure: Cube
> >> Value: Compact design, fanless ducting, limited technology, desktop
> >> eye candy
> >> Evolution: Mac Mini
> >>
> >> Failure: Newton
> >> Value: PDA, synchronization, touch screen
> >> Evolution: iPhone
> >>
> >> In each case the failed product was sexy and groundbreaking, but
> >> failed to meet a need. I can't help thinking that is what happened
> >> with the Air.
> >>
> >> From a strategic perspective they targeted the wrong target. Instead
> >> of out Vaio-ing the Vaio, they should have targeted and out eee'd the
> >> eeePC. Small, light, Linux capable and cheap. ($400) An excellent
> >> machine that bridges the gap between smartphone and laptop. Imagine
> >> the eeePC running OS X with a svelte polycarbonate shell with aluminum
> >> trim.  I'd jump on it in a second, just to have something with me at
> >> all times. For $400 it is a no brainer, but for $2k? I'd have a hard
> >> time justifying it and I think others will too. I'll have to let the
> >> Air breeze by.
> >>
> >> Now of course, I'll be proved completely wrong, and it will be a
> >> raging success and I'll feel really dumb about this email. But that's
> >> Karma, and she's a tough old broad. :-)
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Eric Diamond
> >> F I R S T W A T E R
> >> strategic design + planning
> >>
> >> 847 674 6568 office
> >> 847 414 6467 mobile
> >> 847 380 1887 SkypeIn
> >> ericdiamondmm AIM, Skype
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Murli Nagasundaram wrote:
> >>
> >> > There's probably going to be at least one person on this list who's
> >> > got a glimpse of MBA today:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.apple.com/macbookair/
> >> >
> >> > Any reports on this, particularly the multitouch interface would be
> >> > appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Another issue -- there are some similarities here to the design
> >> > parameters for the Tata Nano -- strip the dang thing down to its
> >> > essence.  MBA, of course, has a more elitist market than the Nano.
> >> > There's unlikely to be any issues raised regarding the possible
> >> > downsides of proliferating the Air.  Incidentally, Apple claims that
> >> > they've gone the extra mile in making the Air eco-friendly (in
> >> > disposal).
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > Murli
>
>


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