Here is the correct link for Adam's talk -

https://www.usenix.org/conference/lisa10/path-senior-sysadmin

-- Debbie

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Deborah Wazir <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Edward Ned Harvey 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:discuss-
>> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Martin James Gehrke
>> >
>> > I do try to grow professionally as a sysadmin on the younger side, but
>> is
>> this
>> > something I should be worried about?
>>
>> I agree with the advice given so far; it is confirmed by my own
> experience.  I became a sysadmin in 1988 after spending a couple years as a
> manufacturing engineer.  I stuck with it over the years, while having 2
> children and moving several times for my husband's job.  I've been laid off
> twice. This has sometimes caused gaps in employment where I forgot most of
> what I knew and had to learn it over again when I went back to work, plus
> all the new skills.  Now the internet and open source has made it possible
> for me to maintain and develop tech skills between jobs.
>
> I told my husband he should think of my job as if I'm a musician,
> sometimes I'll have a gig & sometimes not, so don't plan for a steady
> income.  But over the last several years I've gotten smarter about staying
> ahead of the layoff curve.
>
> I figure, there are always jobs to be had, and there's going to be less
> competition for the most advanced ones since there are fewer people able to
> do them.  So, I have to always be trying to learn more and take on the
> kinds of responsibilities at work that are kind of outside my comfort zone.
>  It's tough, because I thought that when both my kids went to college I
> would suddenly have the free time back that I had before kids; it hasn't
> actually been that way, plus my current job is pretty demanding in itself.
>  But as time goes on, I feel like I'm on the right track, getting just that
> much more ahead of the layoff curve.  If you have that mindset from the
> beginning, so much the better.
>
> You have to think of job security differently too.  I never did develop
> the courage to be a freelancer, but my idea of job security now is  always
> being able to find work when I need to, and I feel like I have that now.  I
> appreciate the concept of networking better now, too - before, when I left
> a job, I didn't keep in touch with my coworkers, I don't really know why.
>  I never had a role model to demonstrate any other way, maybe.  It is
> getting easier with practice, and I'm pushing myself to find out when there
> are technical meetups in my area, and I've even attended a couple so far.
>  I attended my first LISA conference last year, which was fantastic.
>
> When I was in college, one professor said a half-life of an engineer is 17
> years.  That was around 1981.  I think it is just a few years for
> sysadmins.  The bulk of the technical knowledge I've acquired in nearly 25
> years of Unix sysadmin work, is obsolete, strictly speaking.  And some of
> the "special" skills I picked up, would no longer be considered special, or
> even interesting - like being good at setting up modems, or getting
> documents off the internet using gopher or archie.  As time goes on, you
> just have to let go of that old stuff, and stay curious and excited about
> the new stuff coming along that you can learn to do.  I've found, in an
> interview, it counts for a lot not to be afraid of being put into a role
> where you don't already have the expertise, especially with a track record
> of rapidly getting up to speed in new things.
>
> As you get into more "Senior Sysadmin" roles, there is so much more to it
> than just technical skills.  It's what we used to call soft skills, that we
> looked down on and avoided - definitely I did, since I didn't want to get
> pigeonholed doing clerical work.  But if you can get good at that type of
> thing, too - it can make you a more appealing candidate when you look for
> work.  See this talk by Adam Moscowitz here:
> http://static.usenix.org/multimedia/lisa10moskowitz/ "The Path to Senior
> Sysadmin", and this booklet by Mark Burgess and Carolyn Rowland
> https://www.usenix.org/lisa/books/sysadmins-guide-navigating-business-world
> .
>
> I still love this work, and the people I work with.  It just keeps getting
> more interesting!
>
> --
> Debbie Wazir
> [email protected]
>
>


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